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<i>Občutek je.</i>

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<i>Utrip večnega znanja.</i>

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<i>Ko začutiš enost ...</i>

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<i>z nami si.</i>

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<i>Na Zemljo smo prinesli življenje.</i>

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<i>Ne morete nas videti,</i>

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<i>ampak mi cvetimo</i>

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<i>povsod okoli tebe.</i>

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<i>Povsod.</i>

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<i>V vsem.</i>

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<i>In celo v tebi,</i>

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<i>ali verjamete v nas</i>

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<i>ali ne.</i>

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<i>Od prvega diha</i>

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<i>do zadnjega,</i>

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<i>v temi</i>

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<i>in na svetlobi,</i>

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<i>mi smo najstarejši</i>

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<i>in najmlajši.</i>

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<i>Smo največji</i>

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<i>in najmanjši.</i>

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<i>Mi smo modrost</i>

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<i>milijarde let.</i>

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<i>Smo kreacija.</i>

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<i>Mi smo vstajenje,</i>

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<i>obsodba,</i>

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<i>in regeneracijo.</i>

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<i>Mi smo gobe.</i>

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[Paul Stamets]

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<i>Gobe so zelo tajne</i>

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<i>in zelo prevarant.</i>

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<i>Torej, skrivajo se</i>

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<i>od vas ves čas.</i>

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Smo v Agarikonu

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ozemlje zdaj.

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Nekaj jih je velikih

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živijo tukaj gor.

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Vedno je zanimivo

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in razburljivo

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biti v starem gozdu,

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vendar ne vedno nagrajujoče

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pri uresničevanju našega poslanstva

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najti nov sev Agarikon,

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ampak kljub temu,

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premaga biti

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v pisarni.

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Glive so velika molekula

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razkrojevalci narave.

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Zdaj, kaj to pomeni?

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no,

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podirajo drva,

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in tukaj ležim

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v gozdu.

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Nisem še pokukala,

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ampak tukaj je kos lesa

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ležanje na tleh.

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Če bi ležal

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na tleh in sem umrl,

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gobe bi poskočile

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da me recikliraš.

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No, to je pot

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narave.

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<i>Gobe predstavljajo ponovno rojstvo,</i>

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<i>pomlajevanje, regeneracija.</i>

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<i>Glive ustvarjajo zemljo</i>

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<i>ki daje življenje.</i>

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<i>Naloga, s katero se soočamo danes</i>

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<i>je razumeti</i>

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<i>jezik narave.</i>

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Moje poslanstvo je odkrivati

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jezik narave

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glivičnih mrež

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ki komunicirajo

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z ekosistemom,

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<i>in verjamem</i>

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<i>narava je inteligentna.</i>

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<i>Dejstvo, ki nam manjka</i>

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<i>jezikovne spretnosti</i>

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<i>komunicirati z naravo</i>

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<i>ne izpodbija koncepta</i>

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<i>da je narava inteligentna.</i>

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<i>To govori o naši neustreznosti</i>

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<i>za komunikacijo.</i>

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Če se ne zberemo

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in pridejo v skupnost

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in razumevanje

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z organizmi

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ki nas danes podpirajo,

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<i>ne samo, da bomo uničili</i>

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<i>ti organizmi,</i>

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<i>ampak bomo</i>

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<i>se uničimo.</i>

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Goba.

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Ni kot zelenjava,

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in ni kot žival,

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ampak je nekje vmes.

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<i>Gliva je njena</i>

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<i>popolnoma lastno kraljestvo.</i>

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<i>Tam je več</i>

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<i>1,5 milijona vrst.</i>

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<i>To je šestkrat več</i>

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<i>kot rastline.</i>

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<i>Vseh teh vrst</i>

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<i>gliv,</i>

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<i>približno 20.000</i>

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<i>pridelovati gobe,</i>

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<i>in pridejo gobe</i>

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<i>v neverjetni raznolikosti</i>

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<i>oblik in velikosti</i>

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<i>ter barve in življenjski slog.</i>

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<i>Obstajajo celo</i>

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<i>bioluminiscenčne gobe.</i>

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<i>Veliko ljudi je strah</i>

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<i>iz gob.</i>

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<i>Ljudje povezujejo gobe</i>

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<i>in glive-- saj veste, plesen--</i>

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<i>s smrtjo in razpadom,</i>

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<i>kar je smiselno.</i>

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<i>Saj veš,</i>

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<i>obstaja veliko strahu</i>

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<i>zaradi vloge gliv</i>

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<i>v ciklu življenja.</i>

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<i>Razpadejo mrtvi</i>

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<i>in umirajoči organizmi</i>

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<i>in premaknite vsa ta hranila</i>

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<i>nazaj v cikel.</i>

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Nekako so

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čisto na koncu stvari,

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vendar so tudi

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na začetku.

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[Michael Pollan]<i>Ko enkrat začnete</i>

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<i>delo z gobami,</i>

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<i>se pritegneš.</i>

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<i>Res pomembna razlika</i>

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<i>med rastlinami in glivami</i>

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<i>je, da so se rastline razvile</i>

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<i>da ti pade v oči.</i>

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<i>Ko paradižnik pordeči,</i>

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<i>pravi,</i>

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<i>"Hej, pripravljen sem. Pridi pome."</i>

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Gobe

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ne seri.

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Delajo svoje,

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in veliko se jih skriva.

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<i>Vsakič, ko dvignete</i>

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<i>goba,</i>

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<i>soočeni ste</i>

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<i>z dilemo vsejedca.</i>

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<i>Ali vem dovolj</i>

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<i>pojesti to?</i>

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<i>Ali naj to pojem?</i>

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<i>Me bo to ubilo?</i>

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In to je ena

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razlogov zakaj

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ljudje so prestrašeni

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o gobah, ker ja,

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obstajajo

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ki te lahko ubije.

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<i>Nekaj jih bo odneslo</i>

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<i>jetra ali ledvice,</i>

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ampak če sem iskren s teboj,

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v gozdu so jagode

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to lahko tudi tebe ubije.

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Torej, res je zadeva

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poznavanja svojih gob.

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<i>Obstaja ogromna subkultura</i>

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<i>mikofilov,</i>

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<i>ljudi, ki so fascinirani</i>

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<i>z gobami.</i>

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<i>Lovijo gobe</i>

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<i>skupaj in oni</i>

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<i>jejmo gobe skupaj,</i>

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<i>in so neke vrste</i>

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<i>napihnjenih iskalcev užitkov</i>

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z znanstvenim nagibom.

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veš,

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res moja vrsta množice.

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[Gary Lincoff]

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<i>To je tricholoma.</i>

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[Kosti]

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Grifola frondosa.

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[Lincoff] To je

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Cortinarius ludogriseus.

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[Kosti]

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Agaricus bisporus.

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To je lišaj Cladonia.

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[Bone]<i> Tako sem se začel udeleževati</i>

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<i>ti festivali in napadi</i>

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<i>in čedalje več učenja.</i>

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<i>Spremenilo je način</i>

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<i>Vse sem videl.</i>

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<i>Pravzaprav gobe</i>

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<i>je bilo okno, ob katerem</i>

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Prišel sem do razumevanja narave

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na globlji način.

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[Stamets]

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<i>Če ne bi imeli gliv,</i>

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<i>dobili bi to kopičenje</i>

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<i>rastlinske snovi, ki</i>

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<i>bi zadušil Zemljo.</i>

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<i>Resnično so ključ.</i>

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<i>Uničijo življenje rastlin</i>

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<i>in ga naredite uporabnega</i>

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<i>za novo življenje rastlin</i>

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<i>in za življenje živali.</i>

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[Kosti]<i> So prebavni</i>

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<i>območja gozda.</i>

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<i>Eden od življenjskih slogov gliv</i>

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<i>je kot razkrojevalci,</i>

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<i>imenovani saprobe ali gnilobe,</i>

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<i>če želite.</i>

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<i>Uporabljene kvasovke in plesni</i>

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<i>pri izdelavi piva in vina</i>

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<i>in sir</i>

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<i>so vsi saprobe.</i>

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<i>To je pravzaprav</i>

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<i>penicilinska plesen</i>

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<i>v gorgonzoli</i>

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<i>in Roquefort.</i>

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<i>Burbon</i>

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<i>je koruza, fermentirana z glivami.</i>

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<i>Ampak ta sposobnost</i>

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<i>razbiti stvari</i>

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<i>je talent,</i>

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<i>če želite,</i>

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ki se da izkoristiti

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da nam pomaga pri soočanju z nekaterimi

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naših težav, kot je onesnaževanje.

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<i>Ti pokvarjenci,</i>

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<i>se lahko pokvarijo</i>

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<i>vse, kar je naravno.</i>

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<i>To je tisto</i>

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<i>razvili so se za to.</i>

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Karkoli

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ki je na osnovi ogljikovodikov,

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tako da to vključuje stvari

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kot razlitja nafte,

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<i>težave z onesnaževalci.</i>

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<i>To je prijazno</i>

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<i>resnice tega.</i>

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[Stamets]<i> Bil sem del</i>

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<i>tega poskusa.</i>

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Nasičeni so bili štirje kupi

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z dizlom

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in drugi naftni odpadki.

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Eden je bil kontrolni kup,

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en kup je bil obdelan

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z encimi,

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<i>en kup obdelan</i>

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<i>z bakterijo,</i>

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<i>in naš kup smo cepili</i>

253
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<i>s sporami gob.</i>

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<i>Glive absorbirajo olje,</i>

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<i>torej glive proizvajajo</i>

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<i>encimi za oksidaze</i>

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<i>ta zlom</i>

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<i>vezi ogljik-vodik.</i>

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<i>To so iste vezi, ki</i>

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<i>drži ogljikovodike skupaj.</i>

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<i>Tako postanejo glive</i>

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<i>nasičen z oljem.</i>

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<i>In kdaj</i>

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<i>vrnili smo se šest tednov kasneje,</i>

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<i>vse ponjave so bile odstranjene.</i>

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<i>Vsi ostali kupi</i>

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<i>so bili mrtvi, temni in smrdljivi.</i>

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<i>Vrnili smo se na naš kup.</i>

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<i>Pokrito je bilo s stotinami</i>

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<i>funtov ostrig gob.</i>

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<i>Nekaj teh gob</i>

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<i>so zelo vesele gobe.</i>

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<i>Bili so zelo veliki,</i>

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<i>s prikazom količine hranil</i>

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<i>ki bi jih lahko pridobili.</i>

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<i>Toda zgodilo se je nekaj drugega,</i>

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<i>kar je bilo epifanija</i>

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<i>v mojem življenju.</i>

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<i>Razvile so spore.</i>

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<i>Spore privabljajo žuželke.</i>

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<i>Nato so prišle ptice,</i>

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<i>prinašanje semen,</i>

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<i>in naš kup je postal</i>

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<i>oaza življenja.</i>

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[Kosti]<i> Gobe so</i>

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<i>plodna telesa gliv.</i>

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<i>Torej goba</i>

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<i>je kot jabolko.</i>

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<i>Večina organizma</i>

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<i>raste pod zemljo</i>

291
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<i>in je sestavljeno</i>

292
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<i>teh dolgih niti</i>

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<i>in te niti rastejo</i>

294
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<i>ena celica naenkrat</i>

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<i>in potem se razvejajo</i>

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<i>in ponovno razvejati,</i>

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<i>raste v vsakem</i>

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<i>smer, v kateri lahko,</i>

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<i>tudi tridimenzionalno.</i>

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In ta množica niti

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se imenuje micelij.

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Ko pade palica

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na tla...

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potegneš gor...

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in tam je micelij.

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Je tako rekoč povsod.

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Micelij ima več mrež

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kot naši možgani

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ima živčne poti,

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<i>in deluje</i>

311
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<i>na približno enak način,</i>

312
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<i>z elektroliti,</i>

313
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<i>električni impulzi.</i>

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<i>Oni so najbolj</i>

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<i>pogoste vrste na Zemlji.</i>

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<i>Povsod so.</i>

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Samo da vam dam idejo

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koliko gliv

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so v gozdu,

320
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<i>skozi kaj hodiš</i>

321
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<i>je približno 300 milj gliv</i>

322
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<i>pod vsakim korakom</i>

323
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<i>ki ga vzameš.</i>

324
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<i>In to je</i>

325
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<i>povsod po svetu.</i>

326
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<i>In nastanejo</i>

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<i>te ogromne povezave.</i>

328
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<i>Je kot velik splet</i>

329
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<i>raste skozi gozd.</i>

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Micelij, ki lahko izraste

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tudi samo tako velika

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lahko ima bilijone,

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dobesedno bilijoni,

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končnih razvejev.

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<i>Skoraj vsi vedo</i>

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<i>o računalniškem internetu.</i>

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<i>Micelij deli</i>

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<i>enaka zasnova omrežja.</i>

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[Pollan]

340
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<i>Drevesa komunicirajo,</i>

341
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<i>z uporabo micelija kot poti.</i>

342
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<i>Povezujejo se</i>

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<i>eno drevo drugemu.</i>

344
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<i>Uporabljajo tudi micelij</i>

345
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<i>nahraniti drug drugega.</i>

346
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<i>Z drugimi besedami, eno drevo</i>

347
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<i>lahko zamenja hranila z</i>

348
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<i>še eno drevo,</i>

349
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<i>z uporabo micelija</i>

350
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<i>kot prehod.</i>

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[Simard] <i> Tako pogosto</i>

352
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<i>pomislite na prepoznavanje sorodnikov</i>

353
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<i>kot vedenje živali.</i>

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Ljudje, veste,

355
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ljubimo svoje otroke.

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Vemo, da je to naš otrok,

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in gremo pogledat

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po tem otroku.

359
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<i>No, nikoli si nismo mislili</i>

360
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<i>da rastline to zmorejo,</i>

361
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<i>ampak ugotavljamo</i>

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<i>v naši raziskavi</i>

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<i>ki jih rastline prepoznajo</i>

364
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<i>svojih sorodnikov.</i>

365
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<i>Torej ta matična drevesa</i>

366
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<i>prepoznajo svoje sorodnike</i>

367
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<i>preko njih</i>

368
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<i>mikorizne mreže.</i>

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<i>Materno drevo</i>

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<i>in mlade sadike</i>

371
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<i>pošiljajo signale,</i>

372
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<i>pogovarjati drug z drugim.</i>

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<i>Ko so</i>

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<i>povezani skupaj</i>

375
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<i>in ogljik se premika</i>

376
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<i>med rastlinami,</i>

377
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<i>drevesa podpirajo</i>

378
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<i>tisti šibkejši.</i>

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<i>Če ve</i>

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<i>da so okoli škodljivci,</i>

381
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<i>in da je v nevarnosti,</i>

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<i>narasla bo</i>

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<i>njeno tekmovalno okolje</i>

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<i>do lastnih otrok,</i>

385
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tako da se regenerirajo

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dlje stran.

387
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To je čarobna stvar.

388
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In to se ni moglo zgoditi

389
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brez glivic.

390
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[Stamets] Jaz nisem to

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super-idealistični objemalec dreves.

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Občasno objemam drevesa.

393
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To priznam,

394
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bil pa sem drvar.

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Sekam gozd.

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Prekleto, imamo dva za enega

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na tistem.

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Podiranje teh dreves

399
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in pustili jih bomo, da zgnijejo,

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vendar jih pustimo, da zgnijejo

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z namenom.

402
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<i>Pustimo jih, da zgnijejo</i>

403
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<i>s shiitake gobami,</i>

404
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<i>ki so okusne</i>

405
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<i>in zdravilno</i>

406
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ja!

407
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septembra '74,

408
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Paul je delal kot drvar

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v Darringtonu.

410
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<i>Šel sem ga obiskat</i>

411
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<i>en vikend,</i>

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<i>in hodila sva zunaj</i>

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<i>v gozdu,</i>

414
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<i>in začel sem mu kazati</i>

415
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<i>vse te gobe, veš?</i>

416
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<i>Pravi: "Kaj je to?"</i>

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<i>Rekel sem, "Si</i>

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<i>gledam gobe,"</i>

419
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<i>...prvič.</i>

420
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<i>Prišla sva za vogal in</i>

421
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<i>tam je ta vijolična goba.</i>

422
00:14:00,798 --> 00:14:02,926
<i>Nikoli ga nisem videl</i>

423
00:14:00,798 --> 00:14:02,926
<i>tako kot prej.</i>

424
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Bilo je tako kot

425
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to veliko epifanijo,

426
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kot... Vau-vau!

427
00:14:05,596 --> 00:14:07,722
<i>Veš?</i>

428
00:14:05,596 --> 00:14:07,722
<i>In tu se je začelo.</i>

429
00:14:07,764 --> 00:14:09,557
<i>Nikoli se ni ustavil.</i>

430
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To so stare rdeče opasane

431
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polipore.

432
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Eleganten poliporus.

433
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Ima kosmato steblo.

434
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To je okusno

435
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kozica russula goba,

436
00:14:18,107 --> 00:14:19,567
užitno in na izbiro,

437
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in raste tukaj

438
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v starem gozdu.

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[Pollan]

440
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<i>V znanosti je to redko</i>

441
00:14:23,321 --> 00:14:28,118
<i>tako močni amaterji.</i>

442
00:14:28,158 --> 00:14:29,702
<i>Pomen besede</i>

443
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<i>"amater" je ljubimec,</i>

444
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in obožuje svoje gobe.

445
00:14:31,995 --> 00:14:37,210
<i>In to je dokazal</i>

446
00:14:31,995 --> 00:14:37,210
<i>amaterji so lahko verodostojni,</i>

447
00:14:31,995 --> 00:14:37,210
<i>pomembna raziskava.</i>

448
00:14:37,251 --> 00:14:38,503
<i>In to uporabljeno</i>

449
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<i>tako bo.</i>

450
00:14:38,544 --> 00:14:40,087
19. stoletje očitno,

451
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veste, je bil poln

452
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veliki amaterski naravoslovci,

453
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Darwin je eden izmed njih.

454
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[Harman]<i> Predan je</i>

455
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<i>ta univerzalna zavest.</i>

456
00:14:52,267 --> 00:14:54,602
<i>Tukaj je genij</i>

457
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<i>prihaja iz.</i>

458
00:14:55,937 --> 00:14:58,230
Vsaka veličastna stvar

459
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ki so jih ljudje kdaj dosegli

460
00:14:59,732 --> 00:15:01,317
prihaja iz tega kraja.

461
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[P. Stamets]

462
00:15:08,408 --> 00:15:12,120
<i>Odraščal sem v majhnem mestu</i>

463
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<i>imenovano Columbiana, Ohio.</i>

464
00:15:12,162 --> 00:15:14,706
<i>Zelo konzervativno,</i>

465
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<i>zelo veren.</i>

466
00:15:14,748 --> 00:15:17,625
<i>In moj brat John</i>

467
00:15:14,748 --> 00:15:17,625
<i>šel na Yale,</i>

468
00:15:17,668 --> 00:15:19,293
<i>in moj brat Bill</i>

469
00:15:17,668 --> 00:15:19,293
<i>šel na Cornell.</i>

470
00:15:19,336 --> 00:15:22,379
<i>Tako smo bili</i>

471
00:15:19,336 --> 00:15:22,379
<i>akademska družina.</i>

472
00:15:22,422 --> 00:15:25,466
<i>Ampak imel sem</i>

473
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<i>hudo jecljanje</i>

474
00:15:25,509 --> 00:15:29,513
<i>ki je močno motil</i>

475
00:15:25,509 --> 00:15:29,513
<i>moja sposobnost izražanja.</i>

476
00:15:29,553 --> 00:15:32,557
<i>Šel sem skozi šest let</i>

477
00:15:29,553 --> 00:15:32,557
<i>govorne terapije.</i>

478
00:15:32,599 --> 00:15:34,893
<i>Nisem mogel govoriti</i>

479
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<i>en stavek</i>

480
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brez jecljanja

481
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obilno,

482
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pri logopediji pa nič

483
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bi mi lahko pomagal.

484
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Nisem mogel gledati

485
00:15:42,692 --> 00:15:45,110
ljudi v njihovih očeh.

486
00:15:45,153 --> 00:15:48,239
Torej vse življenje,

487
00:15:45,153 --> 00:15:48,239
Gledal sem v tla.

488
00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:51,033
Kdo je prišel do mene,

489
00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:51,033
Gledal bi v tla.

490
00:15:51,075 --> 00:15:52,994
Našel sem fosile

491
00:15:51,075 --> 00:15:52,994
in gobe.

492
00:16:03,421 --> 00:16:06,090
[veter piha]

493
00:16:08,509 --> 00:16:12,346
[pripovedovalec]

494
00:16:08,509 --> 00:16:12,346
<i>Vsi smo zvezde.</i>

495
00:16:12,389 --> 00:16:15,057
<i>Rojeno je moje kraljestvo</i>

496
00:16:12,389 --> 00:16:15,057
<i>iz nebes</i>

497
00:16:15,099 --> 00:16:17,894
<i>štiri milijarde in pol</i>

498
00:16:15,099 --> 00:16:17,894
<i>pred leti.</i>

499
00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:23,274
<i>Mi smo pionirji.</i>

500
00:16:23,316 --> 00:16:27,528
<i>Splezala sva iz morja</i>

501
00:16:23,316 --> 00:16:27,528
<i>za ustvarjanje rodovitne zemlje,</i>

502
00:16:29,072 --> 00:16:33,493
<i>in pripravite oder</i>

503
00:16:29,072 --> 00:16:33,493
<i>za vse življenje.</i>

504
00:16:39,582 --> 00:16:42,210
[P. Stamets]<i> V Južni Afriki,</i>

505
00:16:39,582 --> 00:16:42,210
<i>v sedimentih lave,</i>

506
00:16:42,251 --> 00:16:45,171
<i>so našli</i>

507
00:16:42,251 --> 00:16:45,171
<i>glivam podobni organizmi,</i>

508
00:16:45,212 --> 00:16:50,509
<i>fosili micelija v lavi</i>

509
00:16:45,212 --> 00:16:50,509
<i>2,4 milijarde let.</i>

510
00:16:50,552 --> 00:16:55,557
To je najstarejši zapis o a

511
00:16:50,552 --> 00:16:55,557
večcelični organizem na Zemlji.

512
00:16:57,517 --> 00:17:01,437
<i>Letos še en</i>

513
00:16:57,517 --> 00:17:01,437
<i>fosil je bil najden v</i>

514
00:16:57,517 --> 00:17:01,437
<i>usedline Brazilije.</i>

515
00:17:01,479 --> 00:17:03,941
<i>Star je 113 milijonov let</i>

516
00:17:03,981 --> 00:17:06,358
<i>in to je popolno</i>

517
00:17:03,981 --> 00:17:06,358
<i>oblikovana goba.</i>

518
00:17:09,069 --> 00:17:14,116
<i>Od gliv smo se ločili</i>

519
00:17:09,069 --> 00:17:14,116
<i>pred približno 650 milijoni let.</i>

520
00:17:14,157 --> 00:17:15,576
<i>Ena veja je vodila do gliv.</i>

521
00:17:15,618 --> 00:17:20,038
<i>Druga veja je vodila</i>

522
00:17:15,618 --> 00:17:20,038
<i>živalim.</i>

523
00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:24,544
<i>Izbrali smo pot</i>

524
00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:24,544
<i>kroženja naših hranil</i>

525
00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:24,544
<i>v nekakšni vrečki, želodcu.</i>

526
00:17:24,586 --> 00:17:26,671
<i>Micelij</i>

527
00:17:24,586 --> 00:17:26,671
<i>ostal pod zemljo,</i>

528
00:17:26,712 --> 00:17:29,590
<i>zunanja prebava</i>

529
00:17:26,712 --> 00:17:29,590
<i>njegovih hranil.</i>

530
00:17:33,302 --> 00:17:35,471
<i>Biotska raznovrstnost se je povečala ...</i>

531
00:17:41,728 --> 00:17:45,189
<i>dokler nismo imeli teh odličnih</i>

532
00:17:41,728 --> 00:17:45,189
<i>kataklizmični dogodki izumrtja,</i>

533
00:17:45,230 --> 00:17:48,276
<i>in ko asteroidi</i>

534
00:17:45,230 --> 00:17:48,276
<i>vplival na Zemljo, bam!</i>

535
00:17:48,317 --> 00:17:51,320
<i>Ogromne količine ruševin so bile</i>

536
00:17:48,317 --> 00:17:51,320
<i>odvržen v ozračje.</i>

537
00:17:51,362 --> 00:17:53,114
<i>Sončna svetloba je bila odrezana.</i>

538
00:17:54,991 --> 00:17:56,867
<i>Rastline umirajo, živali umirajo...</i>

539
00:17:58,201 --> 00:18:01,122
<i>in glivice</i>

540
00:17:58,201 --> 00:18:01,122
<i>podedoval Zemljo.</i>

541
00:18:05,710 --> 00:18:09,547
<i>Iz teh dogodkov izumrtja,</i>

542
00:18:05,710 --> 00:18:09,547
<i>tam je ena lekcija.</i>

543
00:18:09,588 --> 00:18:13,759
<i>Tisti organizmi, ki</i>

544
00:18:09,588 --> 00:18:13,759
<i>v paru z glivami preživel.</i>

545
00:18:15,761 --> 00:18:17,806
<i>Smo si bolj blizu</i>

546
00:18:15,761 --> 00:18:17,806
<i>v zvezi z glivami</i>

547
00:18:17,847 --> 00:18:20,851
<i>kot moramo</i>

548
00:18:17,847 --> 00:18:20,851
<i>katero koli drugo kraljestvo.</i>

549
00:18:20,892 --> 00:18:24,269
To pomeni, da

550
00:18:20,892 --> 00:18:24,269
smo potomci micelija.

551
00:18:24,311 --> 00:18:27,523
Micelij je

552
00:18:24,311 --> 00:18:27,523
mati vseh nas.

553
00:18:35,365 --> 00:18:37,784
[Pollan]<i> Živa bitja</i>

554
00:18:35,365 --> 00:18:37,784
<i>kot glive so inteligentne</i>

555
00:18:37,826 --> 00:18:41,203
v smislu, da se odzovejo

556
00:18:37,826 --> 00:18:41,203
v svoje okolje,

557
00:18:41,244 --> 00:18:43,748
iščejo hrano,

558
00:18:41,244 --> 00:18:43,748
in se branijo.

559
00:18:43,789 --> 00:18:47,417
Rešujejo probleme,

560
00:18:43,789 --> 00:18:47,417
in to je inteligenca.

561
00:18:55,801 --> 00:18:59,137
[Kosti]<i>Micelij lahko</i>

562
00:18:55,801 --> 00:18:59,137
<i>teoretično živeti večno</i>

563
00:18:59,180 --> 00:19:02,099
<i>dokler je</i>

564
00:18:59,180 --> 00:19:02,099
<i>ima hrano, v katero zraste,</i>

565
00:19:02,141 --> 00:19:06,269
<i>zato najstarejši</i>

566
00:19:02,141 --> 00:19:06,269
<i>in največji organizem na Zemlji</i>

567
00:19:06,311 --> 00:19:07,855
<i>je gliva.</i>

568
00:19:07,897 --> 00:19:10,901
<i>Živi na vrhu</i>

569
00:19:07,897 --> 00:19:10,901
<i>gore v Oregonu.</i>

570
00:19:10,942 --> 00:19:12,527
<i>To je kot na tisoče</i>

571
00:19:10,942 --> 00:19:12,527
<i>hektarov,</i>

572
00:19:12,568 --> 00:19:14,820
<i>in na tisoče jih je</i>

573
00:19:12,568 --> 00:19:14,820
<i>let.</i>

574
00:19:18,490 --> 00:19:22,578
<i>Goba je organ</i>

575
00:19:18,490 --> 00:19:22,578
<i>spolnega razmnoževanja</i>

576
00:19:22,619 --> 00:19:27,041
<i>za spore</i>

577
00:19:22,619 --> 00:19:27,041
<i>glivice.</i>

578
00:19:27,084 --> 00:19:30,045
<i>Glive nimajo semen.</i>

579
00:19:27,084 --> 00:19:30,045
<i>Imajo spore.</i>

580
00:19:31,170 --> 00:19:34,632
<i>Spore so zelo majhne,</i>

581
00:19:34,673 --> 00:19:39,302
<i>malo lahek</i>

582
00:19:34,673 --> 00:19:39,302
<i>sistemi za prenašanje genov.</i>

583
00:19:39,345 --> 00:19:41,765
<i>Ko pristanejo na nečem</i>

584
00:19:39,345 --> 00:19:41,765
<i>lahko jedo,</i>

585
00:19:41,806 --> 00:19:44,433
<i>razgradijo hrano</i>

586
00:19:41,806 --> 00:19:44,433
<i>ki so vključeni,</i>

587
00:19:44,474 --> 00:19:46,894
<i>in nato ponovno absorbirajte</i>

588
00:19:44,474 --> 00:19:46,894
<i>hranila</i>

589
00:19:46,936 --> 00:19:48,605
<i>ker potrebujete</i>

590
00:19:46,936 --> 00:19:48,605
<i>naprej</i>

591
00:19:48,645 --> 00:19:52,025
<i>in poiščite drugo mesto</i>

592
00:19:48,645 --> 00:19:52,025
<i>kjer je hrana.</i>

593
00:19:55,112 --> 00:20:01,659
<i>Goba sprosti na milijone</i>

594
00:19:55,112 --> 00:20:01,659
<i>spor v ozračje.</i>

595
00:20:01,701 --> 00:20:03,452
<i>Tam je toliko spor.</i>

596
00:20:03,493 --> 00:20:05,829
mislim,

597
00:20:03,493 --> 00:20:05,829
zajamete en sapo...

598
00:20:07,082 --> 00:20:09,500
pravkar si vdihnil

599
00:20:07,082 --> 00:20:09,500
deset glivičnih spor.

600
00:20:09,541 --> 00:20:13,546
<i>Torej so povsod.</i>

601
00:20:09,541 --> 00:20:13,546
<i>Z njimi smo se razvijali.</i>

602
00:20:15,213 --> 00:20:17,258
[Harman]

603
00:20:15,213 --> 00:20:17,258
<i>Ko vidite, kaj počnejo gobe,</i>

604
00:20:17,299 --> 00:20:20,720
<i>to je nekako strašljivo</i>

605
00:20:17,299 --> 00:20:20,720
<i>na najbolj čudovit način.</i>

606
00:20:20,761 --> 00:20:22,721
Mislim, popravijo

607
00:20:20,761 --> 00:20:22,721
vse na Zemlji.

608
00:20:22,763 --> 00:20:24,222
<i>Podpirajo življenje,</i>

609
00:20:24,265 --> 00:20:25,474
<i>spreobražajo življenje,</i>

610
00:20:25,516 --> 00:20:26,977
<i>nosijo življenje.</i>

611
00:20:27,018 --> 00:20:28,811
<i>So izjemna bitja.</i>

612
00:20:30,814 --> 00:20:33,523
<i>Če ljudje izumrejo...</i>

613
00:20:33,566 --> 00:20:37,361
<i>katera je naslednja vrsta</i>

614
00:20:33,566 --> 00:20:37,361
<i>ki bo prevzel Zemljo?</i>

615
00:20:37,403 --> 00:20:40,824
<i>Morda so micelij že</i>

616
00:20:37,403 --> 00:20:40,824
<i>prevladujoča vrsta,</i>

617
00:20:40,865 --> 00:20:43,826
<i>ne samo zato, ker so</i>

618
00:20:40,865 --> 00:20:43,826
<i>najpogostejša vrsta na Zemlji.</i>

619
00:20:43,867 --> 00:20:45,787
<i>Povsod so.</i>

620
00:20:45,828 --> 00:20:47,747
<i>Mislim, gledaš ljudi.</i>

621
00:20:45,828 --> 00:20:47,747
<i>Sedem milijard nas je,</i>

622
00:20:47,788 --> 00:20:49,165
<i>ampak mi smo samo en mali</i>

623
00:20:47,788 --> 00:20:49,165
<i>bitje, ki tava naokoli,</i>

624
00:20:49,207 --> 00:20:50,834
<i>neverjetno ranljiv,</i>

625
00:20:50,875 --> 00:20:53,795
<i>in ne preživite zlahka</i>

626
00:20:50,875 --> 00:20:53,795
<i>če smo napadeni.</i>

627
00:20:53,836 --> 00:20:57,464
[poročevalec]<i> Orkan Harvey</i>

628
00:20:53,836 --> 00:20:57,464
<i>je začel dosegati kopno</i>

629
00:20:57,507 --> 00:20:59,092
<i>tukaj na teksaški obali.</i>

630
00:20:59,134 --> 00:21:01,803
<i>Več kot 30.000 ljudi</i>

631
00:20:59,134 --> 00:21:01,803
<i>so brez električne energije,</i>

632
00:21:01,845 --> 00:21:04,681
<i>in stvari so samo</i>

633
00:21:01,845 --> 00:21:04,681
<i>pričakovano poslabšanje.</i>

634
00:21:04,721 --> 00:21:06,598
[poročevalec 2]<i> Portoriko</i>

635
00:21:04,721 --> 00:21:06,598
<i>je imel najhujšo nevihto</i>

636
00:21:06,641 --> 00:21:07,767
<i>v približno stoletju,</i>

637
00:21:07,808 --> 00:21:09,393
<i>in se muči</i>

638
00:21:09,434 --> 00:21:11,020
<i>da bi razumeli novo normalno</i>

639
00:21:11,061 --> 00:21:13,772
<i>v prihodnjih mesecih</i>

640
00:21:11,061 --> 00:21:13,772
<i>brez osnovnih storitev.</i>

641
00:21:13,815 --> 00:21:17,902
[man]<i> Podnebne spremembe so eno</i>

642
00:21:13,815 --> 00:21:17,902
<i>največjih groženj</i>

643
00:21:13,815 --> 00:21:17,902
<i>v naš sedanji svet,</i>

644
00:21:17,943 --> 00:21:20,403
<i>v prihodnost našega planeta.</i>

645
00:21:27,037 --> 00:21:30,080
[Simard]<i> CO2 je naš</i>

646
00:21:27,037 --> 00:21:30,080
<i>največji toplogredni plin.</i>

647
00:21:30,123 --> 00:21:32,000
<i>Ko rastline fotosintezirajo,</i>

648
00:21:32,041 --> 00:21:36,420
<i>dobesedno vdihavajo CO2</i>

649
00:21:32,041 --> 00:21:36,420
<i>med izdihavanjem kisika.</i>

650
00:21:41,384 --> 00:21:43,552
<i>CO2 je tisto, kar rastline</i>

651
00:21:41,384 --> 00:21:43,552
<i>fotosintetizirati,</i>

652
00:21:43,594 --> 00:21:47,097
<i>in vzamejo ta ogljik,</i>

653
00:21:43,594 --> 00:21:47,097
<i>in so ga vstavili</i>

654
00:21:43,594 --> 00:21:47,097
<i>različna mesta.</i>

655
00:21:47,140 --> 00:21:49,017
<i>Dajo ga v svoje liste,</i>

656
00:21:47,140 --> 00:21:49,017
<i>v njihovih prtljažnikih,</i>

657
00:21:49,058 --> 00:21:52,811
<i>ampak dajo 70% tega,</i>

658
00:21:49,058 --> 00:21:52,811
<i>najdemo, pod zemljo.</i>

659
00:21:58,608 --> 00:22:02,320
<i>In trgovanje s korenskimi sistemi</i>

660
00:21:58,608 --> 00:22:02,320
<i>ta ogljik za hranila.</i>

661
00:22:02,363 --> 00:22:07,035
<i>Ogljik konča v</i>

662
00:22:02,363 --> 00:22:07,035
<i>celične stene gliv,</i>

663
00:22:02,363 --> 00:22:07,035
<i>kje je shranjen.</i>

664
00:22:13,083 --> 00:22:15,876
<i>To spodbuja</i>

665
00:22:13,083 --> 00:22:15,876
<i>skupnost mikrobov</i>

666
00:22:15,919 --> 00:22:17,502
<i>in vsi drugi deli</i>

667
00:22:15,919 --> 00:22:17,502
<i>prehranjevalne mreže,</i>

668
00:22:17,545 --> 00:22:18,880
<i>kot pršice in ogorčice,</i>

669
00:22:18,922 --> 00:22:20,882
<i>in začnejo</i>

670
00:22:18,922 --> 00:22:20,882
<i>kroženje hranil</i>

671
00:22:20,923 --> 00:22:22,759
skozi to

672
00:22:20,923 --> 00:22:22,759
<i>proces prehranjevanja.</i>

673
00:22:24,094 --> 00:22:25,595
Torej glive so

674
00:22:24,094 --> 00:22:25,595
<i>zelo pomembno</i>

675
00:22:25,635 --> 00:22:28,013
pri stabilizaciji

676
00:22:25,635 --> 00:22:28,013
<i>ogljik v tleh.</i>

677
00:22:28,056 --> 00:22:30,099
<i>Ko je ogljik stabilen,</i>

678
00:22:30,141 --> 00:22:35,063
<i>tam lahko ostane shranjen</i>

679
00:22:30,141 --> 00:22:35,063
<i>na tisoče let.</i>

680
00:22:35,105 --> 00:22:38,275
<i>Vemo, na primer,</i>

681
00:22:35,105 --> 00:22:38,275
<i>da se ogljik lahko premika</i>

682
00:22:35,105 --> 00:22:38,275
<i>od rastline do rastline,</i>

683
00:22:38,316 --> 00:22:42,612
<i>in se izenači</i>

684
00:22:38,316 --> 00:22:42,612
<i>distribucija</i>

685
00:22:38,316 --> 00:22:42,612
<i>ogljik v tem sistemu.</i>

686
00:22:42,653 --> 00:22:44,488
<i>Res trdo delajo.</i>

687
00:22:44,529 --> 00:22:46,699
<i>Če rastlino vzdržujemo,</i>

688
00:22:46,740 --> 00:22:49,243
<i>gozd in naravno</i>

689
00:22:46,740 --> 00:22:49,243
<i>skupnost gliv,</i>

690
00:22:49,286 --> 00:22:50,869
<i>imamo naravni motor</i>

691
00:22:50,912 --> 00:22:52,913
<i>to je samo shranjevanje</i>

692
00:22:50,912 --> 00:22:52,913
<i>ogljik pod zemljo.</i>

693
00:22:52,955 --> 00:22:55,083
<i>Torej je bistveno.</i>

694
00:22:55,125 --> 00:22:56,875
veš,

695
00:22:55,125 --> 00:22:56,875
tam je za nas, kajne?

696
00:22:56,917 --> 00:22:58,501
Prav je

697
00:22:56,917 --> 00:22:58,501
pred nami.

698
00:23:01,756 --> 00:23:05,509
[pripovedovalec]

699
00:23:01,756 --> 00:23:05,509
<i>Delamo več kot gobe.</i>

700
00:23:05,550 --> 00:23:10,472
<i>Imamo možnost</i>

701
00:23:05,550 --> 00:23:10,472
<i>naredi veliko več kot</i>

702
00:23:05,550 --> 00:23:10,472
<i>samo napaka.</i>

703
00:23:12,892 --> 00:23:15,019
<i>Kot sadje</i>

704
00:23:12,892 --> 00:23:15,019
<i>našega dela,</i>

705
00:23:15,060 --> 00:23:18,772
<i>večina vas se je samo popraskala</i>

706
00:23:15,060 --> 00:23:18,772
<i>površino naše uporabnosti.</i>

707
00:23:21,858 --> 00:23:24,528
<i>Mi smo tisti, ki spreminjajo.</i>

708
00:23:33,078 --> 00:23:35,580
[P. Stamets]<i> Imel sem 14 ali 15 let</i>

709
00:23:33,078 --> 00:23:35,580
<i>let starosti, mislim,</i>

710
00:23:35,623 --> 00:23:37,750
<i>ko je moj brat John</i>

711
00:23:35,623 --> 00:23:37,750
<i>mi je dal knjigo...</i>

712
00:23:37,791 --> 00:23:40,961
imenovan<i> Spremenjena stanja</i>

713
00:23:37,791 --> 00:23:40,961
<i>zavesti.</i>

714
00:23:41,003 --> 00:23:42,046
<i>In v tej knjigi,</i>

715
00:23:42,087 --> 00:23:43,256
<i>Omenjen je bil Andy Weil</i>

716
00:23:43,298 --> 00:23:44,632
<i>na razširjeno zavest,</i>

717
00:23:44,673 --> 00:23:46,467
<i>in res sem bil navdušen.</i>

718
00:23:48,802 --> 00:23:52,015
<i>Nameraval sem postati karizmatičen</i>

719
00:23:48,802 --> 00:23:52,015
<i>Srečanja krščanskega prebujenja</i>

720
00:23:52,056 --> 00:23:53,723
<i>in videti ljudi</i>

721
00:23:52,056 --> 00:23:53,723
<i>rešen,</i>

722
00:23:53,766 --> 00:23:55,726
<i>vendar je bilo kul</i>

723
00:23:53,766 --> 00:23:55,726
<i>z moje perspektive</i>

724
00:23:55,768 --> 00:23:57,603
<i>da to dosegajo</i>

725
00:23:55,768 --> 00:23:57,603
<i>spremenjeno stanje zavesti.</i>

726
00:23:57,644 --> 00:24:00,397
<i>Tako sem mislil, da je to del</i>

727
00:23:57,644 --> 00:24:00,397
<i>vse iste ideje tukaj.</i>

728
00:24:01,606 --> 00:24:04,484
Res sem dolžan kredit

729
00:24:01,606 --> 00:24:04,484
Andrewu Weilu.

730
00:24:06,403 --> 00:24:08,655
[Andrew Weil] <i> Mislim, da on</i>

731
00:24:06,403 --> 00:24:08,655
<i>preberi eno od mojih zgodnjih knjig</i>

732
00:24:08,698 --> 00:24:10,700
v kateri sem pisal

733
00:24:08,698 --> 00:24:10,700
o lovu na gobe

734
00:24:10,740 --> 00:24:12,785
in psihedelične gobe

735
00:24:12,826 --> 00:24:15,372
in naredil nekaj sklicevanja

736
00:24:12,826 --> 00:24:15,372
tudi na medicinske gobe.

737
00:24:15,413 --> 00:24:17,039
Bilo je kot

738
00:24:15,413 --> 00:24:17,039
prelomnica.

739
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,000
veš,

740
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,000
Vsekakor sem se prebudil.

741
00:24:19,041 --> 00:24:22,420
Drugi ljudje so razmišljali

742
00:24:19,041 --> 00:24:22,420
o širjenju zavesti.

743
00:24:22,461 --> 00:24:25,548
In tako sem dal to knjigo

744
00:24:22,461 --> 00:24:25,548
mojemu prijatelju Ryanu Snyderju.

745
00:24:25,588 --> 00:24:27,967
<i>Torej ga je Ryan odnesel domov</i>

746
00:24:25,588 --> 00:24:27,967
<i>in nekaj dni kasneje,</i>

747
00:24:28,009 --> 00:24:29,509
<i>Rekel sem,</i>

748
00:24:28,009 --> 00:24:29,509
<i>"Ryan, kje je moja knjiga?"</i>

749
00:24:29,551 --> 00:24:32,388
In povedal mi je

750
00:24:29,551 --> 00:24:32,388
njegov oče ga je zažgal.

751
00:24:33,306 --> 00:24:36,308
Rekel sem: "Ste zažgali mojo knjigo?"

752
00:24:36,351 --> 00:24:39,979
<i>Raje kot da bi ga vrnil</i>

753
00:24:36,351 --> 00:24:39,979
<i>zame ali kliče moje starše,</i>

754
00:24:40,020 --> 00:24:43,316
<i>pravzaprav je prevzel pobudo</i>

755
00:24:40,020 --> 00:24:43,316
<i>zažgati to knjigo.</i>

756
00:24:45,317 --> 00:24:49,613
Dolgujem očetu Ryana Snyderja

757
00:24:45,317 --> 00:24:49,613
globok dolg hvaležnosti

758
00:24:49,654 --> 00:24:54,368
ker to posamezno dejanje

759
00:24:49,654 --> 00:24:54,368
vzbudil moje zanimanje

760
00:24:54,411 --> 00:24:59,123
rekoč: "Če je to tako močno

761
00:24:54,411 --> 00:24:59,123
povzročiti, da oseba stori

762
00:24:54,411 --> 00:24:59,123
tako nenavadno dejanje,

763
00:24:59,164 --> 00:25:03,169
potem bi moral pregledati

764
00:24:59,164 --> 00:25:03,169
kaj je ta tema."

765
00:25:06,630 --> 00:25:09,674
[Charles Grob]<i> Človeški obstoj</i>

766
00:25:06,630 --> 00:25:09,674
<i>na tej Zemlji gre nazaj</i>

767
00:25:09,717 --> 00:25:12,803
izjemno dolga

768
00:25:09,717 --> 00:25:12,803
časovno obdobje,

769
00:25:12,845 --> 00:25:17,267
večina jih imamo

770
00:25:12,845 --> 00:25:17,267
brez določljivih podatkov.

771
00:25:17,307 --> 00:25:19,643
<i>To je povsem verjetno,</i>

772
00:25:19,684 --> 00:25:22,480
<i>glede na to, da avtohtoni</i>

773
00:25:19,684 --> 00:25:22,480
<i>ljudje po vsem svetu</i>

774
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:24,690
<i>dobro poznam</i>

775
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:24,690
<i>vse rastlinsko življenje,</i>

776
00:25:24,731 --> 00:25:27,526
in bo vedel drugače

777
00:25:24,731 --> 00:25:27,526
kombinacije rastlinskega sveta

778
00:25:27,567 --> 00:25:29,903
<i>to je naše</i>

779
00:25:27,567 --> 00:25:29,903
<i>prazgodovinski predniki,</i>

780
00:25:29,945 --> 00:25:35,742
<i>naleteli so na rastline</i>

781
00:25:29,945 --> 00:25:35,742
<i>ki spremenijo zavest.</i>

782
00:25:35,785 --> 00:25:37,744
[Dennis McKenna]

783
00:25:35,785 --> 00:25:37,744
<i>V približno dveh milijonih let,</i>

784
00:25:37,787 --> 00:25:40,663
človeški korteks

785
00:25:37,787 --> 00:25:40,663
<i>potrojil velikost,</i>

786
00:25:40,705 --> 00:25:45,711
<i>in možgani so eksplodirali</i>

787
00:25:40,705 --> 00:25:45,711
<i>v smešno kratkem času</i>

788
00:25:45,752 --> 00:25:47,880
<i>evolucijskega časa.</i>

789
00:25:47,922 --> 00:25:51,342
Dva milijona let ni nič

790
00:25:47,922 --> 00:25:51,342
ko gre za evolucijo.

791
00:25:51,384 --> 00:25:53,302
Kaj je to sprožilo?

792
00:25:53,344 --> 00:25:55,011
[P. Stamets]

793
00:25:53,344 --> 00:25:55,011
<i>V poznih sedemdesetih,</i>

794
00:25:55,054 --> 00:25:57,181
<i>Terrence McKenna</i>

795
00:25:55,054 --> 00:25:57,181
<i>in njegov brat Dennis McKenna</i>

796
00:25:57,222 --> 00:26:01,435
<i>so bili prvi, ki so predlagali</i>

797
00:25:57,222 --> 00:26:01,435
<i>hipoteza Stoned Ape.</i>

798
00:26:01,478 --> 00:26:03,895
<i>Zdaj je znano</i>

799
00:26:01,478 --> 00:26:03,895
<i>da je 22 primatov--</i>

800
00:26:03,938 --> 00:26:08,192
<i>23, vključno z nami--</i>

801
00:26:03,938 --> 00:26:08,192
<i>uživanje gob.</i>

802
00:26:08,233 --> 00:26:11,237
<i>In ideja so naši predniki,</i>

803
00:26:08,233 --> 00:26:11,237
<i>prišli so z dreves</i>

804
00:26:11,278 --> 00:26:12,363
<i>in šel čez savano,</i>

805
00:26:12,404 --> 00:26:13,448
<i>bi sledil živalim</i>

806
00:26:13,490 --> 00:26:15,240
<i>ki so pokakali.</i>

807
00:26:15,282 --> 00:26:17,034
<i>No, v subtropih,</i>

808
00:26:17,076 --> 00:26:19,787
<i>najpogostejša goba</i>

809
00:26:17,076 --> 00:26:19,787
<i>iz teh kravjih polpetov</i>

810
00:26:19,828 --> 00:26:23,333
<i>je Psilocybe cubensis,</i>

811
00:26:19,828 --> 00:26:23,333
<i>močna čarobna goba.</i>

812
00:26:23,374 --> 00:26:24,750
[McKenna]

813
00:26:23,374 --> 00:26:24,750
<i>Ena stvar, ki gobe</i>

814
00:26:24,791 --> 00:26:26,669
<i>in druge psihedelike</i>

815
00:26:24,791 --> 00:26:26,669
<i>delajte zanesljivo</i>

816
00:26:26,710 --> 00:26:30,256
<i>ali povzročajo</i>

817
00:26:26,710 --> 00:26:30,256
<i>sinestezija.</i>

818
00:26:30,298 --> 00:26:35,635
<i>Sinestezija je zaznava</i>

819
00:26:30,298 --> 00:26:35,635
<i>ene čutne modalnosti</i>

820
00:26:30,298 --> 00:26:35,635
<i>v drugem,</i>

821
00:26:35,677 --> 00:26:37,596
<i>barve sluha, na primer,</i>

822
00:26:37,637 --> 00:26:39,890
<i>ali gledanje glasbe.</i>

823
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:52,694
<i>Imate te globoke</i>

824
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:52,694
<i>izkušnje</i>

825
00:26:52,736 --> 00:26:56,406
<i>in postaviti se moraš</i>

826
00:26:52,736 --> 00:26:56,406
<i>na njihovem mestu</i>

827
00:26:56,449 --> 00:26:59,285
<i>in predstavljajte si kakšen vpliv</i>

828
00:26:56,449 --> 00:26:59,285
<i>takšne izkušnje</i>

829
00:26:59,326 --> 00:27:01,453
<i>moralo je biti</i>

830
00:26:59,326 --> 00:27:01,453
<i>na zgodnjem hominidu.</i>

831
00:27:02,454 --> 00:27:03,955
<i>Te čarobne gobe se odprejo</i>

832
00:27:03,998 --> 00:27:07,376
<i>zapornice</i>

833
00:27:03,998 --> 00:27:07,376
<i>informacije, ki jih prejmete.</i>

834
00:27:07,417 --> 00:27:09,711
<i>V bistvu si lahko omislite</i>

835
00:27:07,417 --> 00:27:09,711
<i>kot kontaktna tekočina</i>

836
00:27:09,752 --> 00:27:13,089
<i>med sinapsami</i>

837
00:27:09,752 --> 00:27:13,089
<i>v možganih-- Vau!</i>

838
00:27:13,132 --> 00:27:14,509
<i>Kakšno tekmovanje</i>

839
00:27:13,132 --> 00:27:14,509
<i>prednost,</i>

840
00:27:14,550 --> 00:27:15,718
<i>še posebej, če delate</i>

841
00:27:15,759 --> 00:27:17,094
<i>z geometrijo orožja,</i>

842
00:27:17,135 --> 00:27:18,887
<i>ali dajanje</i>

843
00:27:17,135 --> 00:27:18,887
<i>nekaj skupaj</i>

844
00:27:18,929 --> 00:27:22,016
<i>to vam bo dalo boljše</i>

845
00:27:18,929 --> 00:27:22,016
<i>možnost preživetja.</i>

846
00:27:22,057 --> 00:27:24,977
<i>Dejstvo, da se je to zgodilo</i>

847
00:27:22,057 --> 00:27:24,977
<i>ne enkrat, ne dvakrat,</i>

848
00:27:25,019 --> 00:27:27,688
<i>ampak milijone</i>

849
00:27:25,019 --> 00:27:27,688
<i>na milijone krat</i>

850
00:27:27,730 --> 00:27:29,272
<i>v milijonih let</i>

851
00:27:29,315 --> 00:27:31,192
<i>je zelo verjeten</i>

852
00:27:29,315 --> 00:27:31,192
<i>razlaga</i>

853
00:27:31,233 --> 00:27:34,987
<i>za potrojitev možganov</i>

854
00:27:31,233 --> 00:27:34,987
<i>pred dvema milijonoma let.</i>

855
00:27:35,028 --> 00:27:38,865
[McKenna]<i> Ni tako preprosto</i>

856
00:27:35,028 --> 00:27:38,865
<i>reči, da so jedli</i>

857
00:27:35,028 --> 00:27:38,865
<i>psilocibinske gobe</i>

858
00:27:38,907 --> 00:27:40,284
<i>in nenadoma so možgani mutirali.</i>

859
00:27:40,326 --> 00:27:42,161
<i>Mislim, da je več</i>

860
00:27:40,326 --> 00:27:42,161
<i>zapleteno od tega,</i>

861
00:27:42,202 --> 00:27:44,954
<i>toda mislim, da je bil dejavnik.</i>

862
00:27:44,997 --> 00:27:46,832
<i>Bilo je kot programska oprema</i>

863
00:27:46,874 --> 00:27:51,628
<i>programirati to nevrološko</i>

864
00:27:46,874 --> 00:27:51,628
<i>moderna strojna oprema za razmišljanje,</i>

865
00:27:51,670 --> 00:27:55,007
imeti spoznanje,

866
00:27:51,670 --> 00:27:55,007
imeti jezik

867
00:27:55,048 --> 00:27:57,551
<i>ker jezik</i>

868
00:27:55,048 --> 00:27:57,551
<i>je v bistvu sinestezija.</i>

869
00:27:57,594 --> 00:27:59,261
<i>Jezik</i>

870
00:27:57,594 --> 00:27:59,261
<i>je samo asociacija</i>

871
00:27:59,302 --> 00:28:01,388
<i>z očitno</i>

872
00:27:59,302 --> 00:28:01,388
<i>brez pomena</i>

873
00:28:01,431 --> 00:28:05,643
<i>razen, da je povezan</i>

874
00:28:01,431 --> 00:28:05,643
<i>s kompleksom pomenov.</i>

875
00:28:05,683 --> 00:28:09,396
<i>Velik del možganov</i>

876
00:28:05,683 --> 00:28:09,396
<i>nepremičnine, bi lahko rekli,</i>

877
00:28:09,439 --> 00:28:11,523
<i>je predan generaciji</i>

878
00:28:11,566 --> 00:28:14,151
<i>in/ali razumevanje</i>

879
00:28:11,566 --> 00:28:14,151
<i>jezika.</i>

880
00:28:14,192 --> 00:28:17,695
<i>Te nevronske strukture</i>

881
00:28:14,192 --> 00:28:17,695
<i>ni jih najti pri naših prednikih.</i>

882
00:28:17,738 --> 00:28:20,657
<i>To je človeška lastnost</i>

883
00:28:17,738 --> 00:28:20,657
<i>imeti toliko fiziologije</i>

884
00:28:20,699 --> 00:28:24,287
<i>predan ustvarjanju</i>

885
00:28:20,699 --> 00:28:24,287
<i>in razumevanje jezika,</i>

886
00:28:24,327 --> 00:28:26,872
<i>in to je odsev</i>

887
00:28:24,327 --> 00:28:26,872
<i>evolucijskega napredka</i>

888
00:28:26,913 --> 00:28:29,083
<i>to nas je naredilo</i>

889
00:28:26,913 --> 00:28:29,083
<i>kar smo.</i>

890
00:28:33,836 --> 00:28:36,173
[P. Stamets]<i> Nisem mogel</i>

891
00:28:33,836 --> 00:28:36,173
<i>dobite te gobe za</i>

892
00:28:33,836 --> 00:28:36,173
<i>najdaljši čas.</i>

893
00:28:36,214 --> 00:28:37,840
<i>Ko sem bil v Ohiu,</i>

894
00:28:37,883 --> 00:28:41,095
<i>Pravzaprav sem kupil</i>

895
00:28:37,883 --> 00:28:41,095
<i>vreča čarobnih gob,</i>

896
00:28:41,136 --> 00:28:43,180
vendar nisem imel vodnika.

897
00:28:43,221 --> 00:28:46,933
Nisem imel nobenih priporočil

898
00:28:43,221 --> 00:28:46,933
za koliko zaužiti.

899
00:28:46,976 --> 00:28:49,728
Torej sem imel približno tako veliko torbo,

900
00:28:46,976 --> 00:28:49,728
tako sem mislil,

901
00:28:49,769 --> 00:28:51,771
"No, to je verjetno

902
00:28:49,769 --> 00:28:51,771
en odmerek."

903
00:28:51,814 --> 00:28:54,023
Torej sem porabil vrečko!

904
00:28:54,066 --> 00:28:55,858
Zdaj pa za tiste med vami

905
00:28:54,066 --> 00:28:55,858
kdor ne ve,

906
00:28:55,901 --> 00:28:57,528
to je desetkrat več

907
00:28:57,569 --> 00:29:00,114
<i>kot verjetno potrebujete</i>

908
00:28:57,569 --> 00:29:00,114
<i>zaužiti.</i>

909
00:29:00,155 --> 00:29:01,657
<i>Bil je topel poletni dan,</i>

910
00:29:01,699 --> 00:29:05,368
<i>in bilo je lepo</i>

911
00:29:01,699 --> 00:29:05,368
<i>veliko, veliko drevo,</i>

912
00:29:05,411 --> 00:29:06,537
<i>hrast,</i>

913
00:29:06,578 --> 00:29:07,871
<i>in potem sem opazil</i>

914
00:29:07,913 --> 00:29:09,499
<i>črni oblaki</i>

915
00:29:07,913 --> 00:29:09,499
<i>na obzorju,</i>

916
00:29:09,539 --> 00:29:11,875
<i>in tam sem spoznal</i>

917
00:29:09,539 --> 00:29:11,875
<i>prihajala je nevihta.</i>

918
00:29:11,916 --> 00:29:14,461
In pomislil sem: "To je super.

919
00:29:11,916 --> 00:29:14,461
Obstaja odlična podoba.

920
00:29:11,916 --> 00:29:14,461
Prihaja nevihta."

921
00:29:14,503 --> 00:29:17,173
<i>In mislil sem,</i>

922
00:29:14,503 --> 00:29:17,173
<i>"No, jaz bom plezal</i>

923
00:29:14,503 --> 00:29:17,173
<i>na vrh drevesa."</i>

924
00:29:17,213 --> 00:29:18,798
<i>Torej začenjam</i>

925
00:29:17,213 --> 00:29:18,798
<i>občutiti učinke.</i>

926
00:29:25,515 --> 00:29:30,560
<i>Dobivam valove</i>

927
00:29:25,515 --> 00:29:30,560
<i>kjer zrak postane tekočina,</i>

928
00:29:30,603 --> 00:29:32,395
in ...

929
00:29:32,438 --> 00:29:33,896
<i>to bi imel</i>

930
00:29:32,438 --> 00:29:33,896
<i>popačeno polje,</i>

931
00:29:33,939 --> 00:29:36,192
<i>pojdi skozi</i>

932
00:29:33,939 --> 00:29:36,192
<i>vizualna pokrajina.</i>

933
00:29:36,232 --> 00:29:38,234
<i>Tega še nisem videl,</i>

934
00:29:38,277 --> 00:29:41,864
<i>in reci: "Oh, vau, to je kaj</i>

935
00:29:38,277 --> 00:29:41,864
<i>o katerem so govorili."</i>

936
00:29:41,904 --> 00:29:44,616
<i>In vidim kipeče oblake</i>

937
00:29:41,904 --> 00:29:44,616
<i>se približujejo,</i>

938
00:29:44,659 --> 00:29:46,576
<i>toda zdaj so videti jezni.</i>

939
00:29:46,618 --> 00:29:49,288
<i>In potem</i>

940
00:29:46,618 --> 00:29:49,288
<i>strele bi šle...</i>

941
00:29:49,329 --> 00:29:51,665
[posnemanje udarca strele]

942
00:29:51,708 --> 00:29:53,916
<i>in potem vse to</i>

943
00:29:51,708 --> 00:29:53,916
<i>geometrijski fraktali</i>

944
00:29:53,959 --> 00:29:56,378
<i>bi izhajal</i>

945
00:29:53,959 --> 00:29:56,378
<i>od udarov strele.</i>

946
00:29:56,420 --> 00:29:57,547
<i>In kmalu,</i>

947
00:29:57,587 --> 00:29:58,714
<i>Imam te prekrivne mozaike</i>

948
00:29:58,756 --> 00:30:00,215
<i>matematičnih vzorcev</i>

949
00:30:00,257 --> 00:30:02,884
<i>in geometrijske figure</i>

950
00:30:00,257 --> 00:30:02,884
<i>več barv</i>

951
00:30:02,925 --> 00:30:05,221
<i>ki plavajo</i>

952
00:30:02,925 --> 00:30:05,221
<i>v tem vidnem polju</i>

953
00:30:05,261 --> 00:30:07,515
<i>ti valovi</i>

954
00:30:05,261 --> 00:30:07,515
<i>so leteli skozi.</i>

955
00:30:07,557 --> 00:30:10,727
<i>Nikoli v življenju nisem videl</i>

956
00:30:07,557 --> 00:30:10,727
<i>kar koli prej.</i>

957
00:30:12,185 --> 00:30:14,480
<i>Veter se krepi</i>

958
00:30:12,185 --> 00:30:14,480
<i>in deževalo bi,</i>

959
00:30:14,521 --> 00:30:16,773
<i>in postalo me je zelo strah.</i>

960
00:30:16,856 --> 00:30:19,192
<i>In potem tudi spoznam</i>

961
00:30:16,856 --> 00:30:19,192
<i>Sem na vrhu hriba,</i>

962
00:30:19,234 --> 00:30:21,695
<i>Zadela me je nevihta</i>

963
00:30:19,234 --> 00:30:21,695
<i>na najvišjem drevesu.</i>

964
00:30:21,738 --> 00:30:22,820
Ni najboljše mesto za bivanje

965
00:30:22,863 --> 00:30:23,864
ko boš izbiral

966
00:30:23,905 --> 00:30:24,990
duhovno izkušnjo.

967
00:30:25,031 --> 00:30:26,659
<i>In tako sem se držal drevesa</i>

968
00:30:26,701 --> 00:30:27,951
<i>za drago,</i>

969
00:30:27,992 --> 00:30:29,494
<i>in tisto drevo</i>

970
00:30:27,992 --> 00:30:29,494
<i>je bil moj steber,</i>

971
00:30:29,537 --> 00:30:31,163
nazaj v jedro

972
00:30:29,537 --> 00:30:31,163
Zemlje.

973
00:30:31,204 --> 00:30:34,584
In tako dolgo sem se počutil varnega

974
00:30:31,204 --> 00:30:34,584
ko sem se držal za drevo.

975
00:30:34,625 --> 00:30:36,711
<i>Strele udarjajo vse naokrog.</i>

976
00:30:34,625 --> 00:30:36,711
<i>Tunderclaw.</i>

977
00:30:36,752 --> 00:30:39,128
<i>Ena sekunda med</i>

978
00:30:36,752 --> 00:30:39,128
<i>udar strele</i>

979
00:30:36,752 --> 00:30:39,128
<i>in grmenje.</i>

980
00:30:39,171 --> 00:30:42,048
<i>Vedel si, da prihaja</i>

981
00:30:39,171 --> 00:30:42,048
<i>bližje in bližje.</i>

982
00:30:42,090 --> 00:30:46,095
<i>Bil sem prestrašen</i>

983
00:30:42,090 --> 00:30:46,095
<i>da ne bi preživel,</i>

984
00:30:46,135 --> 00:30:48,971
<i>In skozi to</i>

985
00:30:46,135 --> 00:30:48,971
<i>"grozljiva" izkušnja,</i>

986
00:30:49,013 --> 00:30:50,932
<i>grozljivo in grozljivo</i>

987
00:30:49,013 --> 00:30:50,932
<i>hkrati,</i>

988
00:30:50,973 --> 00:30:52,559
<i>Sem zgoraj na tem drevesu</i>

989
00:30:50,973 --> 00:30:52,559
<i>in pravim,</i>

990
00:30:52,602 --> 00:30:54,394
<i>"No, na kaj naj se osredotočim?"</i>

991
00:30:54,436 --> 00:30:56,355
<i>Rekel sem, "No, Stamets,</i>

992
00:30:54,436 --> 00:30:56,355
<i>nisi neumen.</i>

993
00:30:56,396 --> 00:30:59,107
<i>Vendar ves čas jecljaš."</i>

994
00:30:59,148 --> 00:31:03,278
<i>In tako sem mislil, da potrebujem</i>

995
00:30:59,148 --> 00:31:03,278
<i>nehati jecljati.</i>

996
00:31:03,319 --> 00:31:05,698
In tako sem si rekel,

997
00:31:03,319 --> 00:31:05,698
»Nehaj jecljati.

998
00:31:05,740 --> 00:31:07,784
Nehajte zdaj jecljati."

999
00:31:07,825 --> 00:31:10,160
<i>Mali notranji glas</i>

1000
00:31:07,825 --> 00:31:10,160
<i>v moji glavi.</i>

1001
00:31:10,201 --> 00:31:12,788
<i>"Me slišite?</i>

1002
00:31:10,201 --> 00:31:12,788
<i>Nehaj zdaj jecljati."</i>

1003
00:31:12,829 --> 00:31:14,414
<i>To sem začel govoriti.</i>

1004
00:31:14,457 --> 00:31:16,291
<i>»Nehaj zdaj jecljati.</i>

1005
00:31:14,457 --> 00:31:16,291
<i>Nehaj zdaj jecljati."</i>

1006
00:31:16,333 --> 00:31:18,669
<i>Stotine, stotine, stotine,</i>

1007
00:31:16,333 --> 00:31:18,669
<i>tisočkrat.</i>

1008
00:31:24,258 --> 00:31:25,634
<i>Ko je nevihta minila,</i>

1009
00:31:25,675 --> 00:31:27,761
<i>Prišel sem dol iz</i>

1010
00:31:25,675 --> 00:31:27,761
<i>drevo premočeno,</i>

1011
00:31:27,804 --> 00:31:29,596
premočen do kosti,

1012
00:31:29,638 --> 00:31:31,723
veš,

1013
00:31:29,638 --> 00:31:31,723
zaljubljen v življenje,

1014
00:31:31,766 --> 00:31:33,976
z naravo,

1015
00:31:31,766 --> 00:31:33,976
zaljubljen v to drevo.

1016
00:31:34,017 --> 00:31:36,269
To drevo je bilo tako pomembno

1017
00:31:34,017 --> 00:31:36,269
zame.

1018
00:31:36,311 --> 00:31:37,895
<i>In sem šel domov,</i>

1019
00:31:37,938 --> 00:31:39,272
in sem šla spat.

1020
00:31:39,315 --> 00:31:40,650
Nikogar nisem videl.

1021
00:31:40,691 --> 00:31:42,108
In naslednje jutro

1022
00:31:40,691 --> 00:31:42,108
zbudil sem se,

1023
00:31:42,151 --> 00:31:45,194
in res je bilo

1024
00:31:42,151 --> 00:31:45,194
privlačna dama

1025
00:31:45,237 --> 00:31:46,697
ki mi je bil zelo všeč,

1026
00:31:46,739 --> 00:31:48,490
ampak nikoli nisem mogel strmeti

1027
00:31:46,739 --> 00:31:48,490
ji v oči,

1028
00:31:48,531 --> 00:31:50,701
ker sem se bal jecljati

1029
00:31:48,531 --> 00:31:50,701
in se spravljam v zadrego.

1030
00:31:50,742 --> 00:31:53,746
Zato se je bolje izogniti

1031
00:31:50,742 --> 00:31:53,746
socialni stik kot

1032
00:31:50,742 --> 00:31:53,746
imeti socialne stike,

1033
00:31:53,788 --> 00:31:55,832
čeprav sem bil

1034
00:31:53,788 --> 00:31:55,832
jo resnično privlači.

1035
00:31:55,873 --> 00:31:57,165
In ona me je imela rada,

1036
00:31:57,207 --> 00:31:58,500
ampak nisem vedel

1037
00:31:57,207 --> 00:31:58,500
kaj narediti s tem,

1038
00:31:58,541 --> 00:31:59,836
s to napetostjo.

1039
00:31:59,876 --> 00:32:01,336
In tako je šla mimo mene,

1040
00:32:01,377 --> 00:32:02,672
in pogledala me je,

1041
00:32:02,712 --> 00:32:04,047
in rekla je,

1042
00:32:02,712 --> 00:32:04,047
"Dobro jutro, Paul."

1043
00:32:04,088 --> 00:32:05,298
In to prvič

1044
00:32:05,340 --> 00:32:06,800
Pogledal sem jo naravnost

1045
00:32:05,340 --> 00:32:06,800
v očesu

1046
00:32:06,843 --> 00:32:09,135
in rekel sem,

1047
00:32:06,843 --> 00:32:09,135
"Dobro jutro. Kako si?"

1048
00:32:09,178 --> 00:32:11,971
In nehal sem jecljati

1049
00:32:09,178 --> 00:32:11,971
v eni seji.

1050
00:32:22,023 --> 00:32:25,819
[Skrillex predvaja na radiu]

1051
00:32:34,076 --> 00:32:36,413
To je najnovejša stvar

1052
00:32:34,076 --> 00:32:36,413
moji zaposleni poslušajo.

1053
00:32:36,454 --> 00:32:39,415
Moji zaposleni so moji najboljši

1054
00:32:36,454 --> 00:32:39,415
vir nove glasbe.

1055
00:32:39,458 --> 00:32:42,627
Radi imamo glasno glasbo

1056
00:32:39,458 --> 00:32:42,627
za gobe

1057
00:32:39,458 --> 00:32:42,627
v laboratorijih.

1058
00:32:42,670 --> 00:32:46,339
Vsem povzroča

1059
00:32:42,670 --> 00:32:46,339
da se sinhronizira.

1060
00:32:46,382 --> 00:32:48,759
Imamo veliko neverbalnega

1061
00:32:46,382 --> 00:32:48,759
komunikacija v laboratorijih.

1062
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:50,219
Ni ti dovoljeno govoriti.

1063
00:32:50,259 --> 00:32:51,929
Vaša usta širijo bakterije.

1064
00:32:51,970 --> 00:32:53,596
Torej poskušamo

1065
00:32:51,970 --> 00:32:53,596
da zmanjšate govorjenje.

1066
00:32:53,638 --> 00:32:55,807
Veliko je torej narejenega

1067
00:32:53,638 --> 00:32:55,807
s kretnjami in vedenjem.

1068
00:32:55,849 --> 00:32:58,810
Torej, zakaj ga ne bi imeli

1069
00:32:55,849 --> 00:32:58,810
z glasno glasbo?

1070
00:33:01,396 --> 00:33:02,690
<i>Moj oče je bil poslovnež.</i>

1071
00:33:02,731 --> 00:33:04,733
<i>Prisegel sem</i>

1072
00:33:02,731 --> 00:33:04,733
<i>Nikoli ne bi postal,</i>

1073
00:33:04,775 --> 00:33:07,443
<i>toda hotel sem biti</i>

1074
00:33:04,775 --> 00:33:07,443
<i>neodvisen,</i>

1075
00:33:07,486 --> 00:33:09,988
<i>zato sem malo ustvaril</i>

1076
00:33:07,486 --> 00:33:09,988
<i>poslovanje po pošti</i>

1077
00:33:10,029 --> 00:33:13,534
<i>da se oskrbujem</i>

1078
00:33:10,029 --> 00:33:13,534
<i>in drugi ljudje, ki so imeli</i>

1079
00:33:10,029 --> 00:33:13,534
<i>kot zanimanje za gobe.</i>

1080
00:33:14,826 --> 00:33:16,202
<i>Ko smo začeli poslovati,</i>

1081
00:33:16,244 --> 00:33:18,329
<i>bilo je izjemno</i>

1082
00:33:16,244 --> 00:33:18,329
<i>takrat je bilo težko,</i>

1083
00:33:18,372 --> 00:33:20,123
<i>in nismo imeli</i>

1084
00:33:18,372 --> 00:33:20,123
<i>viri.</i>

1085
00:33:20,164 --> 00:33:21,541
<i>Postavljali smo</i>

1086
00:33:20,164 --> 00:33:21,541
<i>majhni oglasi</i>

1087
00:33:21,584 --> 00:33:23,460
<i>v</i> reviji<i>Organsko vrtnarjenje</i>

1088
00:33:23,501 --> 00:33:26,713
<i>ko je bilo samo</i>

1089
00:33:23,501 --> 00:33:26,713
<i>tri televizijske postaje.</i>

1090
00:33:28,632 --> 00:33:29,759
<i>Jaz sem izumil ta posel</i>

1091
00:33:29,799 --> 00:33:30,968
<i>da bi lahko kupil opremo</i>

1092
00:33:31,009 --> 00:33:33,220
<i>za moj laboratorij na debelo.</i>

1093
00:33:36,973 --> 00:33:39,602
<i>Zame je neverjetno, imamo</i>

1094
00:33:36,973 --> 00:33:39,602
<i>skoraj sto zaposlenih</i>

1095
00:33:39,643 --> 00:33:42,688
<i>in na tisoče</i>

1096
00:33:39,643 --> 00:33:42,688
<i>medijskih hiš.</i>

1097
00:33:44,189 --> 00:33:46,191
<i>Te gobe</i>

1098
00:33:44,189 --> 00:33:46,191
<i>so bili zame tako močni</i>

1099
00:33:46,232 --> 00:33:49,569
<i>da sem to spoznal</i>

1100
00:33:46,232 --> 00:33:49,569
<i>Želel sem jih preučiti.</i>

1101
00:33:49,612 --> 00:33:52,489
Ta goba, ki je znana kot

1102
00:33:49,612 --> 00:33:52,489
<i>reishi,</i> ali<i> lingzhi,</i>

1103
00:33:52,530 --> 00:33:54,784
goba

1104
00:33:52,530 --> 00:33:54,784
nesmrtnosti.

1105
00:33:54,825 --> 00:33:57,536
In to je eden najbolj osupljivih

1106
00:33:54,825 --> 00:33:57,536
in zanimive gobe

1107
00:33:57,577 --> 00:33:59,413
da smo kdaj zrasli.

1108
00:33:59,454 --> 00:34:04,585
Ta goba pomaga krepiti imuniteto

1109
00:33:59,454 --> 00:34:04,585
ne le ljudi, ampak tudi čebel.

1110
00:34:17,514 --> 00:34:18,807
Tukaj gor po tem hribu,

1111
00:34:18,849 --> 00:34:20,559
imamo četrtino

1112
00:34:18,849 --> 00:34:20,559
premoženja,

1113
00:34:20,601 --> 00:34:22,059
160 hektarjev,

1114
00:34:22,101 --> 00:34:25,230
in imamo veliko

1115
00:34:22,101 --> 00:34:25,230
mikološki poskus.

1116
00:34:26,148 --> 00:34:27,858
<i>Posadili smo 33.000 dreves,</i>

1117
00:34:27,900 --> 00:34:30,152
<i>polovica z mikoriznimi glivami</i>

1118
00:34:27,900 --> 00:34:30,152
<i>pritrjen na korenine,</i>

1119
00:34:30,193 --> 00:34:31,193
<i>pol brez,</i>

1120
00:34:31,235 --> 00:34:33,864
<i>in to je deveto leto.</i>

1121
00:34:33,905 --> 00:34:36,574
Torej, vlagamo v

1122
00:34:33,905 --> 00:34:36,574
Excelova preglednica,

1123
00:34:36,617 --> 00:34:39,077
ali vložili

1124
00:34:36,617 --> 00:34:39,077
1.100 dreves

1125
00:34:39,119 --> 00:34:41,496
za primerjavo zdravljenja.

1126
00:34:41,538 --> 00:34:42,914
Prišel sem do drobiža

1127
00:34:42,956 --> 00:34:45,793
od licenciranja enega

1128
00:34:42,956 --> 00:34:45,793
mojih patentov,

1129
00:34:45,835 --> 00:34:48,503
in tako, ko politični

1130
00:34:45,835 --> 00:34:48,503
podnebje Združenih držav Amerike

1131
00:34:48,545 --> 00:34:51,047
spremenilo v neugodno

1132
00:34:48,545 --> 00:34:51,047
okoljevarstvenikom,

1133
00:34:51,088 --> 00:34:52,675
kupili smo zemljo v Kanadi.

1134
00:34:56,385 --> 00:35:00,056
[Pollan] <i> Mislim, da dejstvo</i>

1135
00:34:56,385 --> 00:35:00,056
<i>na katerega ni prišel on</i>

1136
00:34:56,385 --> 00:35:00,056
<i>konvencionalna akademska pot</i>

1137
00:35:00,097 --> 00:35:01,557
<i>je del razloga</i>

1138
00:35:00,097 --> 00:35:01,557
<i>je tako pripravljen</i>

1139
00:35:01,599 --> 00:35:03,143
<i>zares raziskovati</i>

1140
00:35:01,599 --> 00:35:03,143
<i>zamisli, ki...</i>

1141
00:35:03,184 --> 00:35:05,521
niso na nikogar

1142
00:35:03,184 --> 00:35:05,521
tuj radar.

1143
00:35:07,313 --> 00:35:10,275
[P. Stamets]<i> Res sem počaščen</i>

1144
00:35:07,313 --> 00:35:10,275
<i>da sem odkril nekaj stvari</i>

1145
00:35:10,317 --> 00:35:12,443
<i>da nihče drug</i>

1146
00:35:10,317 --> 00:35:12,443
<i>še odkril.</i>

1147
00:35:12,485 --> 00:35:16,197
Tako imam zdaj pet patentov

1148
00:35:12,485 --> 00:35:16,197
na entomopatogene glive.

1149
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,074
To so gobe

1150
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,074
ki okužijo insekte,

1151
00:35:18,115 --> 00:35:20,994
<i>in še posebej,</i>

1152
00:35:18,115 --> 00:35:20,994
<i>termiti.</i>

1153
00:35:21,036 --> 00:35:23,246
<i>Največja težava v</i>

1154
00:35:21,036 --> 00:35:23,246
<i>komercializacija</i>

1155
00:35:23,288 --> 00:35:25,289
<i>biopesticidov</i>

1156
00:35:23,288 --> 00:35:25,289
<i>iz gliv</i>

1157
00:35:25,331 --> 00:35:27,668
<i>je bil tros</i>

1158
00:35:25,331 --> 00:35:27,668
<i>odbojnost.</i>

1159
00:35:27,710 --> 00:35:30,545
<i>Žuželke se izogibajo sporam</i>

1160
00:35:27,710 --> 00:35:30,545
<i>teh gliv.</i>

1161
00:35:30,586 --> 00:35:32,463
<i>Pravzaprav,</i>

1162
00:35:30,586 --> 00:35:32,463
<i>tako zaskrbljeni so termiti</i>

1163
00:35:32,505 --> 00:35:34,215
<i>če gre delavec ven</i>

1164
00:35:32,505 --> 00:35:34,215
<i>in naleti na to glivo,</i>

1165
00:35:34,257 --> 00:35:36,552
<i>ko delavec</i>

1166
00:35:34,257 --> 00:35:36,552
<i>se vrne nazaj v gnezdo,</i>

1167
00:35:36,592 --> 00:35:38,512
<i>stražarji, bodo</i>

1168
00:35:36,592 --> 00:35:38,512
<i>ujeti tega delavca</i>

1169
00:35:38,554 --> 00:35:40,137
<i>ki je okužen</i>

1170
00:35:38,554 --> 00:35:40,137
<i>s temi sporami,</i>

1171
00:35:40,179 --> 00:35:41,764
<i>vzemite delavca</i>

1172
00:35:40,179 --> 00:35:41,764
<i>na pokopališče,</i>

1173
00:35:41,806 --> 00:35:44,893
<i>in so odrezali</i>

1174
00:35:41,806 --> 00:35:44,893
<i>glava delavca,</i>

1175
00:35:44,934 --> 00:35:46,936
<i>in nato dva stražarja</i>

1176
00:35:44,934 --> 00:35:46,936
<i>narediti samomor.</i>

1177
00:35:46,978 --> 00:35:48,813
<i>Poskušajo zaščititi</i>

1178
00:35:46,978 --> 00:35:48,813
<i>kraljica in gnezdo</i>

1179
00:35:48,856 --> 00:35:50,606
<i>in kolonija</i>

1180
00:35:48,856 --> 00:35:50,606
<i>od okužbe.</i>

1181
00:35:50,648 --> 00:35:53,360
In nekaj sem odkril

1182
00:35:50,648 --> 00:35:53,360
da nihče drug

1183
00:35:53,402 --> 00:35:55,195
je kdaj poročal v

1184
00:35:53,402 --> 00:35:55,195
znanstvena literatura.

1185
00:35:55,237 --> 00:35:58,574
<i>Našel sem biološko stikalo</i>

1186
00:35:55,237 --> 00:35:58,574
<i>zakasnjena sporulacija,</i>

1187
00:35:58,614 --> 00:36:01,451
<i>in nato žuželke</i>

1188
00:35:58,614 --> 00:36:01,451
<i>niso bili odbiti.</i>

1189
00:36:01,492 --> 00:36:03,536
<i>Ampak so bili</i>

1190
00:36:01,492 --> 00:36:03,536
<i>super privlačen,</i>

1191
00:36:03,579 --> 00:36:06,789
<i>kar pomeni, da se najde</i>

1192
00:36:03,579 --> 00:36:06,789
<i>glivice zdaj in druge sledijo,</i>

1193
00:36:06,831 --> 00:36:08,708
<i>in konča se</i>

1194
00:36:06,831 --> 00:36:08,708
<i>biti trojanski konj.</i>

1195
00:36:08,751 --> 00:36:11,670
<i>Zdaj so uporabljene iste glive</i>

1196
00:36:08,751 --> 00:36:11,670
<i>mimo stražarjev,</i>

1197
00:36:11,711 --> 00:36:14,923
<i>dano kraljici, kraljica</i>

1198
00:36:11,711 --> 00:36:14,923
<i>z njim nahrani zarod.</i>

1199
00:36:14,965 --> 00:36:17,800
<i>Celotna kolonija postane</i>

1200
00:36:14,965 --> 00:36:17,800
<i>mumificiran s tem micelijem,</i>

1201
00:36:17,842 --> 00:36:22,472
<i>in, huh! Celotna kolonija</i>

1202
00:36:17,842 --> 00:36:22,472
<i>je okužen in umre.</i>

1203
00:36:22,514 --> 00:36:24,682
<i>In potem spore</i>

1204
00:36:22,514 --> 00:36:24,682
<i>odbojne lastnosti</i>

1205
00:36:24,724 --> 00:36:27,309
ščiti vašo hišo

1206
00:36:24,724 --> 00:36:27,309
pred kasnejšimi vdori.

1207
00:36:27,351 --> 00:36:29,521
To je ogromno odkritje.

1208
00:36:29,563 --> 00:36:31,231
In potem sem poskusil

1209
00:36:29,563 --> 00:36:31,231
z mizarskimi mravljami,

1210
00:36:31,273 --> 00:36:33,442
<i>z ognjenimi mravljami,</i>

1211
00:36:31,273 --> 00:36:33,442
<i>glivični komarji,</i>

1212
00:36:33,483 --> 00:36:34,943
<i>in potem komarji,</i>

1213
00:36:34,985 --> 00:36:36,778
<i>in zdaj delamo</i>

1214
00:36:34,985 --> 00:36:36,778
<i>s posteljnimi stenicami,</i>

1215
00:36:36,820 --> 00:36:39,655
in imeli smo uspehe

1216
00:36:36,820 --> 00:36:39,655
čez tablo.

1217
00:36:44,744 --> 00:36:49,331
<i>Celoten ekosistem</i>

1218
00:36:44,744 --> 00:36:49,331
<i>je prepojen z glivami.</i>

1219
00:36:49,373 --> 00:36:53,753
<i>Torej, vidim te globoke rezervoarje</i>

1220
00:36:49,373 --> 00:36:53,753
<i>ekologije povsod okoli nas.</i>

1221
00:37:01,552 --> 00:37:03,429
[pripovedovalec]

1222
00:37:01,552 --> 00:37:03,429
<i>V svetu izumov,</i>

1223
00:37:03,472 --> 00:37:05,431
<i>odgovor na</i>

1224
00:37:03,472 --> 00:37:05,431
<i>naše največje težave</i>

1225
00:37:05,474 --> 00:37:09,268
<i>morda se prav skriva</i>

1226
00:37:05,474 --> 00:37:09,268
<i>pod našimi nogami.</i>

1227
00:37:10,228 --> 00:37:11,730
[Kosti]<i> Gobe so</i>

1228
00:37:11,771 --> 00:37:14,315
<i>ki so bile uporabljene</i>

1229
00:37:11,771 --> 00:37:14,315
<i>v zahodni medicini.</i>

1230
00:37:14,356 --> 00:37:16,068
<i>Penicilin, na primer,</i>

1231
00:37:16,110 --> 00:37:19,695
<i>je res učinkovito</i>

1232
00:37:16,110 --> 00:37:19,695
<i>antibiotik.</i>

1233
00:37:19,737 --> 00:37:22,115
<i>Preden je bil sintetiziran,</i>

1234
00:37:19,737 --> 00:37:22,115
<i>med državljansko vojno,</i>

1235
00:37:22,157 --> 00:37:24,659
<i>ko vojak</i>

1236
00:37:22,157 --> 00:37:24,659
<i>bi bil ranjen,</i>

1237
00:37:24,701 --> 00:37:27,536
<i>oklofutali bi kos</i>

1238
00:37:24,701 --> 00:37:27,536
<i>plesniv kruh na njegovi rani</i>

1239
00:37:27,579 --> 00:37:31,208
<i>imati koristi od tega</i>

1240
00:37:27,579 --> 00:37:31,208
<i>antibiotične lastnosti,</i>

1241
00:37:31,248 --> 00:37:33,085
tako da ne bi dobil

1242
00:37:31,248 --> 00:37:33,085
okužba.

1243
00:37:35,003 --> 00:37:38,965
[P. Stamets]<i> Alexander Fleming</i>

1244
00:37:35,003 --> 00:37:38,965
<i>odkril penicilin leta 1927.</i>

1245
00:37:39,007 --> 00:37:40,134
<i>Težava je bila v tem</i>

1246
00:37:40,175 --> 00:37:41,467
<i>niso mogli najti sevov</i>

1247
00:37:41,510 --> 00:37:42,885
<i>to bi lahko bilo</i>

1248
00:37:41,510 --> 00:37:42,885
<i>komercializiran,</i>

1249
00:37:42,927 --> 00:37:44,471
<i>ki bi lahko proizvedlo</i>

1250
00:37:42,927 --> 00:37:44,471
<i>Dovolj tega</i>

1251
00:37:44,512 --> 00:37:46,222
<i>v komercialni obliki</i>

1252
00:37:44,512 --> 00:37:46,222
<i>ekonomična moda.</i>

1253
00:37:47,182 --> 00:37:48,432
<i>Hitro naprej,</i>

1254
00:37:48,474 --> 00:37:50,226
<i>in leta 1942,</i>

1255
00:37:50,268 --> 00:37:53,188
<i>skupina raziskovalcev</i>

1256
00:37:50,268 --> 00:37:53,188
<i>v Chicagu šel po nakupih,</i>

1257
00:37:53,230 --> 00:37:55,940
<i>in najden laboratorijski pomočnik</i>

1258
00:37:53,230 --> 00:37:55,940
<i>dinja, ki je gnila</i>

1259
00:37:55,983 --> 00:37:58,275
<i>z lepoto</i>

1260
00:37:55,983 --> 00:37:58,275
<i>zlata plesen,</i>

1261
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,155
<i>in iz tega seva,</i>

1262
00:38:02,197 --> 00:38:05,784
<i>dobili smo prvega</i>

1263
00:38:02,197 --> 00:38:05,784
<i>hiperproduciranje</i>

1264
00:38:02,197 --> 00:38:05,784
<i>sev penicilija.</i>

1265
00:38:07,786 --> 00:38:09,286
<i>Penicilin je dobesedno rešil</i>

1266
00:38:09,329 --> 00:38:12,248
<i>na desettisoče</i>

1267
00:38:09,329 --> 00:38:12,248
<i>življenja vojakov.</i>

1268
00:38:12,289 --> 00:38:13,833
<i>Britanci so imeli to,</i>

1269
00:38:13,876 --> 00:38:16,335
<i>ampak Nemci in</i>

1270
00:38:13,876 --> 00:38:16,335
<i>Japonci niso.</i>

1271
00:38:18,380 --> 00:38:20,422
<i>Bilo je predlagano</i>

1272
00:38:18,380 --> 00:38:20,422
<i>to odkritje</i>

1273
00:38:20,465 --> 00:38:22,509
<i>te hiperprodukcije</i>

1274
00:38:20,465 --> 00:38:22,509
<i>sev penicilina</i>

1275
00:38:22,550 --> 00:38:25,512
<i>je bil pomemben vpliv</i>

1276
00:38:22,550 --> 00:38:25,512
<i>pri zmagi v drugi svetovni vojni.</i>

1277
00:38:25,554 --> 00:38:29,016
<i>Alexander Fleming je nato prejel</i>

1278
00:38:25,554 --> 00:38:29,016
<i>Nobelovo nagrado leta 1945,</i>

1279
00:38:29,057 --> 00:38:31,518
<i>za priznanje</i>

1280
00:38:29,057 --> 00:38:31,518
<i>ogromnega vpliva</i>

1281
00:38:31,559 --> 00:38:34,146
<i>ki ga je imel penicilin</i>

1282
00:38:31,559 --> 00:38:34,146
<i>na zdravje ljudi.</i>

1283
00:38:41,777 --> 00:38:45,782
[Kosti]<i> Tukaj je, kako zdravilno</i>

1284
00:38:41,777 --> 00:38:45,782
<i>gobe naj bi delovale:</i>

1285
00:38:45,824 --> 00:38:49,577
<i>Proizvedla bo gliva</i>

1286
00:38:45,824 --> 00:38:49,577
<i>vse vrste encimov--</i>

1287
00:38:49,619 --> 00:38:51,538
<i>je kot</i>

1288
00:38:49,619 --> 00:38:51,538
<i>kemična vojna--</i>

1289
00:38:51,579 --> 00:38:54,623
<i>za boj proti</i>

1290
00:38:51,579 --> 00:38:54,623
<i>tekmovanje za hrano,</i>

1291
00:38:54,666 --> 00:38:56,710
<i>kot drugi mikrobi,</i>

1292
00:38:56,751 --> 00:39:00,297
<i>druge glive,</i>

1293
00:38:56,751 --> 00:39:00,297
<i>bakterije, virusi.</i>

1294
00:39:00,338 --> 00:39:03,550
<i>To je tisto, kar</i>

1295
00:39:00,338 --> 00:39:03,550
<i>antibiotiki delujejo.</i>

1296
00:39:03,592 --> 00:39:06,219
<i>Kemikalije</i>

1297
00:39:03,592 --> 00:39:06,219
<i>ki ga proizvajajo glive,</i>

1298
00:39:06,262 --> 00:39:08,889
<i>kot tisti</i>

1299
00:39:06,262 --> 00:39:08,889
<i>penicilin je narejen iz,</i>

1300
00:39:08,931 --> 00:39:10,347
<i>proizvaja ga gliva</i>

1301
00:39:10,389 --> 00:39:12,684
<i>za ubijanje bakterij</i>

1302
00:39:10,389 --> 00:39:12,684
<i>ki so konkurenca,</i>

1303
00:39:12,726 --> 00:39:17,355
<i>in ko vzamemo penicilin,</i>

1304
00:39:12,726 --> 00:39:17,355
<i>ubija naše bakterije.</i>

1305
00:39:17,396 --> 00:39:19,648
[Weil]<i> Obstaja dolga tradicija</i>

1306
00:39:17,396 --> 00:39:19,648
<i>uporabe gob</i>

1307
00:39:19,690 --> 00:39:21,735
<i>kot zdravila v vzhodni Aziji,</i>

1308
00:39:21,777 --> 00:39:24,487
<i>zlasti v Koreji,</i>

1309
00:39:21,777 --> 00:39:24,487
<i>Kitajska in Japonska.</i>

1310
00:39:24,528 --> 00:39:27,032
<i>Zdi se, da</i>

1311
00:39:24,528 --> 00:39:27,032
<i>biti sposoben izboljšati</i>

1312
00:39:27,074 --> 00:39:31,202
<i>in zaščitite prirojeno</i> telesa

1313
00:39:27,074 --> 00:39:31,202
<i>obrambni mehanizmi.</i>

1314
00:39:31,244 --> 00:39:33,371
<i>Uporabe zanje zapolnjujejo niše</i>

1315
00:39:33,413 --> 00:39:36,666
<i>za kar res</i>

1316
00:39:33,413 --> 00:39:36,666
<i>nimam ničesar</i>

1317
00:39:33,413 --> 00:39:36,666
<i>v zahodni farmakologiji.</i>

1318
00:39:36,708 --> 00:39:38,751
<i>V zahodni medicini,</i>

1319
00:39:36,708 --> 00:39:38,751
<i>vsa naša prizadevanja</i>

1320
00:39:38,793 --> 00:39:41,420
<i>je na identifikaciji</i>

1321
00:39:38,793 --> 00:39:41,420
<i>povzročitelji bolezni</i>

1322
00:39:41,463 --> 00:39:42,797
<i>in njihovo odpravo.</i>

1323
00:39:42,838 --> 00:39:43,882
<i>To ima svoje mesto,</i>

1324
00:39:43,923 --> 00:39:45,134
<i>vendar ne naredimo skoraj nič</i>

1325
00:39:45,175 --> 00:39:46,927
<i>o podpiranju dobrega.</i>

1326
00:39:51,264 --> 00:39:53,934
[P. Stamets]

1327
00:39:51,264 --> 00:39:53,934
<i>Šamani bi zdravili bolnike</i>

1328
00:39:53,976 --> 00:39:55,768
<i>in bolezni</i>

1329
00:39:53,976 --> 00:39:55,768
<i>so mislili, da so</i>

1330
00:39:55,811 --> 00:39:58,646
<i>elementi</i>

1331
00:39:55,811 --> 00:39:58,646
<i>svet duhov.</i>

1332
00:39:58,688 --> 00:40:01,275
<i>No, danes zdravniki</i>

1333
00:39:58,688 --> 00:40:01,275
<i>zdravljenje okužb,</i>

1334
00:40:01,317 --> 00:40:03,568
<i>in njihove žgane pijače</i>

1335
00:40:01,317 --> 00:40:03,568
<i>so bakterije,</i>

1336
00:40:03,610 --> 00:40:05,820
<i>ali patogen,</i>

1337
00:40:03,610 --> 00:40:05,820
<i>ali virusi.</i>

1338
00:40:05,862 --> 00:40:08,157
<i>Torej, ali šamani</i>

1339
00:40:05,862 --> 00:40:08,157
<i>jih imenovali duhovi</i>

1340
00:40:08,197 --> 00:40:11,327
<i>ali znanstveniki</i>

1341
00:40:08,197 --> 00:40:11,327
<i>imenujte jih mikrobi,</i>

1342
00:40:11,367 --> 00:40:13,244
<i>z izumom</i>

1343
00:40:11,367 --> 00:40:13,244
<i>mikroskopov</i>

1344
00:40:13,286 --> 00:40:16,081
<i>vidimo mikroskopsko</i>

1345
00:40:13,286 --> 00:40:16,081
<i>vesolje in pokrajina</i>

1346
00:40:16,123 --> 00:40:20,043
<i>na katerega grmimo</i>

1347
00:40:16,123 --> 00:40:20,043
<i>z vsakim korakom.</i>

1348
00:40:20,085 --> 00:40:22,420
<i>Dejstvo, da</i>

1349
00:40:20,085 --> 00:40:22,420
<i>te glivične mreže</i>

1350
00:40:22,461 --> 00:40:23,838
<i>so na videz nevidni,</i>

1351
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:25,047
<i>toda potem se predstavljajo</i>

1352
00:40:25,090 --> 00:40:26,382
<i>v veliki cvetoči gobi</i>

1353
00:40:26,423 --> 00:40:28,010
<i>čez nekaj dni,</i>

1354
00:40:28,050 --> 00:40:30,971
<i>odprite nam okno</i>

1355
00:40:28,050 --> 00:40:30,971
<i>nevidna pokrajina</i>

1356
00:40:31,012 --> 00:40:32,554
<i>pod našimi nogami.</i>

1357
00:40:49,072 --> 00:40:50,782
<i>Glivične mreže</i>

1358
00:40:49,072 --> 00:40:50,782
<i>so se branili</i>

1359
00:40:50,824 --> 00:40:53,952
<i>proti prenašalcem bolezni</i>

1360
00:40:50,824 --> 00:40:53,952
<i>milijone let.</i>

1361
00:40:53,994 --> 00:40:57,579
<i>Virusne pandemije</i>

1362
00:40:53,994 --> 00:40:57,579
<i>se pojavlja občasno.</i>

1363
00:40:57,621 --> 00:41:00,876
<i>Med letoma 1347 in 1353</i>

1364
00:41:00,916 --> 00:41:03,753
<i>ena tretjina</i>

1365
00:41:00,916 --> 00:41:03,753
<i>Evropsko prebivalstvo je umrlo</i>

1366
00:41:03,795 --> 00:41:05,547
<i>od črne kuge.</i>

1367
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,550
<i>Velika pandemija gripe</i>

1368
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,550
<i>iz leta 1918,</i>

1369
00:41:09,592 --> 00:41:12,012
<i>dva odstotka</i>

1370
00:41:09,592 --> 00:41:12,012
<i>svetovno prebivalstvo je umrlo.</i>

1371
00:41:12,054 --> 00:41:14,181
<i>Milijoni in milijoni</i>

1372
00:41:12,054 --> 00:41:14,181
<i>ljudi.</i>

1373
00:41:15,764 --> 00:41:19,353
<i>Mislim, da se vsi zavedajo</i>

1374
00:41:15,764 --> 00:41:19,353
<i>grožnje bioterorizma,</i>

1375
00:41:19,394 --> 00:41:21,563
<i>vendar malo ljudi</i>

1376
00:41:19,394 --> 00:41:21,563
<i>morda to ve</i>

1377
00:41:21,603 --> 00:41:23,898
<i>Evropejci so bili</i>

1378
00:41:21,603 --> 00:41:23,898
<i>aktivno vključen,</i>

1379
00:41:23,940 --> 00:41:25,650
<i>zavestno</i>

1380
00:41:23,940 --> 00:41:25,650
<i>ali nezavedno,</i>

1381
00:41:25,692 --> 00:41:27,735
<i>v bioterorizmu proti</i>

1382
00:41:25,692 --> 00:41:27,735
<i>avtohtona ljudstva,</i>

1383
00:41:27,777 --> 00:41:31,239
<i>zlasti v Novem svetu,</i>

1384
00:41:27,777 --> 00:41:31,239
<i>v Srednji Ameriki.</i>

1385
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:32,907
<i>Prinesli so bolezni,</i>

1386
00:41:32,949 --> 00:41:34,326
<i>in ko ste zelo bolni,</i>

1387
00:41:34,367 --> 00:41:36,411
<i>ne morete se boriti proti vsiljivcu.</i>

1388
00:41:37,661 --> 00:41:39,664
<i>To je ironija</i>

1389
00:41:37,661 --> 00:41:39,664
<i>zgodovine, ki je zdaj,</i>

1390
00:41:39,706 --> 00:41:41,416
<i>vlada ZDA</i>

1391
00:41:39,706 --> 00:41:41,416
<i>se zanima</i>

1392
00:41:41,458 --> 00:41:44,501
<i>pri zaščiti ljudi</i>

1393
00:41:41,458 --> 00:41:44,501
<i>od virusnih pandemije.</i>

1394
00:41:44,543 --> 00:41:46,838
[poročevalec]<i> Paul Stamets</i>

1395
00:41:44,543 --> 00:41:46,838
<i>vzgojili številne vrste</i>

1396
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:49,215
<i>v svojem laboratoriju in pripravljen</i>

1397
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:49,215
<i>naravni izvleček.</i>

1398
00:41:49,257 --> 00:41:51,175
<i>Nato je predložil vzorce</i>

1399
00:41:51,217 --> 00:41:54,721
<i>na Ministrstvo za obrambo</i>

1400
00:41:51,217 --> 00:41:54,721
<i>Program BioShield za testiranje.</i>

1401
00:41:54,762 --> 00:41:55,804
[P. Stamets]<i> In ironično,</i>

1402
00:41:55,847 --> 00:41:57,099
Imam dolg hvaležnost

1403
00:41:57,139 --> 00:41:59,726
Dicku Cheneyju

1404
00:41:57,139 --> 00:41:59,726
in George W. Bush.

1405
00:41:59,768 --> 00:42:02,561
Bistveno je, da naš narod

1406
00:41:59,768 --> 00:42:02,561
razpravljati in obravnavati grožnjo

1407
00:42:02,603 --> 00:42:04,481
pandemske gripe zdaj.

1408
00:42:04,521 --> 00:42:06,108
[P. Stamets]

1409
00:42:04,521 --> 00:42:06,108
<i>Njihovo financiranje te raziskave</i>

1410
00:42:06,148 --> 00:42:07,817
<i>privedel do nekaterih zelo</i>

1411
00:42:06,148 --> 00:42:07,817
<i>nova odkritja,</i>

1412
00:42:07,858 --> 00:42:11,487
<i>pri čemer smo še vedno</i>

1413
00:42:07,858 --> 00:42:11,487
<i>razlaga danes.</i>

1414
00:42:11,528 --> 00:42:13,197
<i>In kaj vemo o teh</i>

1415
00:42:11,528 --> 00:42:13,197
<i>mreže micelija</i>

1416
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:15,324
<i>se učijo membrane.</i>

1417
00:42:15,367 --> 00:42:18,202
So samoučeči

1418
00:42:15,367 --> 00:42:18,202
in mrežni organizmi

1419
00:42:18,244 --> 00:42:21,039
ki lahko deli

1420
00:42:18,244 --> 00:42:21,039
in shranite znanje.

1421
00:42:21,081 --> 00:42:23,208
<i>Micelij</i>

1422
00:42:21,081 --> 00:42:23,208
<i>se cepi</i>

1423
00:42:23,250 --> 00:42:26,001
<i>proti patogenom</i>

1424
00:42:23,250 --> 00:42:26,001
<i>v ekosistemu.</i>

1425
00:42:26,043 --> 00:42:27,586
<i>To lahko izkoristimo</i>

1426
00:42:27,628 --> 00:42:29,755
<i>ker mnogi</i>

1427
00:42:27,628 --> 00:42:29,755
<i>isti bakterijski patogeni</i>

1428
00:42:29,797 --> 00:42:33,675
<i>ki okužijo glivice,</i>

1429
00:42:29,797 --> 00:42:33,675
<i>lahko okuži tudi živali.</i>

1430
00:42:33,717 --> 00:42:34,969
Našli smo nove molekule

1431
00:42:35,010 --> 00:42:37,347
zelo aktivna

1432
00:42:35,010 --> 00:42:37,347
proti virusom koz,

1433
00:42:37,389 --> 00:42:38,681
nove molekule zelo aktivne

1434
00:42:38,722 --> 00:42:42,184
proti HPV,

1435
00:42:38,722 --> 00:42:42,184
humani papiloma virus.

1436
00:42:42,226 --> 00:42:44,561
<i>Mnogi znanstveniki so</i>

1437
00:42:42,226 --> 00:42:44,561
<i>poskušam priti gor</i>

1438
00:42:44,603 --> 00:42:47,856
<i>z naslednjim antibiotikom,</i>

1439
00:42:44,603 --> 00:42:47,856
<i>naslednji penicilin,</i>

1440
00:42:47,898 --> 00:42:50,318
<i>vendar smo komaj prisluškovali</i>

1441
00:42:47,898 --> 00:42:50,318
<i>v glivični genom,</i>

1442
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:54,780
<i>še posebej</i>

1443
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:54,780
<i>gobasta oblika gliv.</i>

1444
00:42:54,822 --> 00:42:58,452
<i>Pomislite: naš staroselec</i>

1445
00:42:54,822 --> 00:42:58,452
<i>gozdovi, ki vsebujejo</i>

1446
00:42:54,822 --> 00:42:58,452
<i>te starodavne glive</i>

1447
00:42:58,494 --> 00:43:00,369
<i>so globoki rezervoarji</i>

1448
00:43:00,411 --> 00:43:03,581
<i>potencialnih spojin, ki</i>

1449
00:43:00,411 --> 00:43:03,581
<i>se lahko bori proti pandemskim virusom.</i>

1450
00:43:03,623 --> 00:43:08,210
<i>Morali bi varčevati</i>

1451
00:43:03,623 --> 00:43:08,210
<i>stari gozd kot</i>

1452
00:43:03,623 --> 00:43:08,210
<i>zadeva nacionalne obrambe.</i>

1453
00:43:18,137 --> 00:43:21,099
[Weil]<i> Priporočam gobe</i>

1454
00:43:18,137 --> 00:43:21,099
<i>in izdelki iz gob</i>

1455
00:43:18,137 --> 00:43:21,099
<i>pogosto bolnikom</i>

1456
00:43:21,141 --> 00:43:24,643
in učim druge zdravnike

1457
00:43:21,141 --> 00:43:24,643
o njihovi uporabi.

1458
00:43:24,686 --> 00:43:28,148
<i>Gobe imajo molekule</i>

1459
00:43:24,686 --> 00:43:28,148
<i>ni drugje v naravi.</i>

1460
00:43:28,190 --> 00:43:30,775
<i>Nekateri imajo</i>

1461
00:43:28,190 --> 00:43:30,775
<i>popolnoma nenavadne lastnosti</i>

1462
00:43:30,817 --> 00:43:34,070
<i>kot goba Lion's Mane.</i>

1463
00:43:34,112 --> 00:43:35,780
[P. Stamets]

1464
00:43:34,112 --> 00:43:35,780
<i>Goba levja griva</i>

1465
00:43:35,822 --> 00:43:38,867
<i>je kroglasta kaskada</i>

1466
00:43:35,822 --> 00:43:38,867
<i>goba v obliki žleda.</i>

1467
00:43:38,907 --> 00:43:40,952
<i>Ima okus po jastogu</i>

1468
00:43:38,907 --> 00:43:40,952
<i>ali kozice, ko jih kuhate,</i>

1469
00:43:40,994 --> 00:43:44,246
<i>ampak raziskovalec na Japonskem</i>

1470
00:43:40,994 --> 00:43:44,246
<i>po imenu Kara-Jishi</i>

1471
00:43:44,289 --> 00:43:46,623
<i>odkrit okoli leta 1993,</i>

1472
00:43:46,666 --> 00:43:49,418
<i>in nimam najbolj meglenega</i>

1473
00:43:46,666 --> 00:43:49,418
<i>predstavljajte si, kako to odkrijete,</i>

1474
00:43:49,460 --> 00:43:54,007
<i>vendar je to odkril</i>

1475
00:43:49,460 --> 00:43:54,007
<i>ta goba stimulira</i>

1476
00:43:49,460 --> 00:43:54,007
<i>živci za ponovno rast</i>

1477
00:43:54,048 --> 00:43:58,260
<i>in domneval je, da bi lahko</i>

1478
00:43:54,048 --> 00:43:58,260
<i>biti učinkovito zdravljenje</i>

1479
00:43:54,048 --> 00:43:58,260
<i>proti Alzheimerjevi bolezni.</i>

1480
00:43:58,302 --> 00:44:01,181
[Weil]<i> Ker nimamo</i>

1481
00:43:58,302 --> 00:44:01,181
<i>vse za Alzheimerjevo bolezen</i>

1482
00:44:01,222 --> 00:44:04,518
<i>in ker to ni strupeno,</i>

1483
00:44:01,222 --> 00:44:04,518
<i>morali bi ga preizkusiti.</i>

1484
00:44:04,559 --> 00:44:07,061
<i>Gobe so popolnoma</i>

1485
00:44:04,559 --> 00:44:07,061
<i>nenavadni organizmi</i>

1486
00:44:07,103 --> 00:44:08,938
in so prezrti

1487
00:44:07,103 --> 00:44:08,938
toliko ljudi

1488
00:44:08,980 --> 00:44:11,148
in vendar so

1489
00:44:08,980 --> 00:44:11,148
pomemben vmesnik

1490
00:44:11,190 --> 00:44:13,275
med vsemi oblikami življenja.

1491
00:44:20,449 --> 00:44:22,327
[P. Stamets]<i> Na univerzi</i>

1492
00:44:20,449 --> 00:44:22,327
<i>južne Floride,</i>

1493
00:44:22,369 --> 00:44:24,829
<i>zelo zanimivo</i>

1494
00:44:22,369 --> 00:44:24,829
<i>izšla je študija.</i>

1495
00:44:24,871 --> 00:44:27,248
<i>Miši so bile izurjene, da imajo</i>

1496
00:44:24,871 --> 00:44:27,248
<i>pogojni odziv na strah</i>

1497
00:44:27,289 --> 00:44:30,085
<i>in tako, ko je zvok</i>

1498
00:44:27,289 --> 00:44:30,085
<i>ki je povezan z bolečino,</i>

1499
00:44:30,126 --> 00:44:31,460
<i>pozneje, ko bodo</i>

1500
00:44:30,126 --> 00:44:31,460
<i>pravkar sem slišal zvok,</i>

1501
00:44:31,503 --> 00:44:33,045
<i>skrčili so se od strahu.</i>

1502
00:44:35,340 --> 00:44:37,634
<i>Ko so zdravili miši</i>

1503
00:44:35,340 --> 00:44:37,634
<i>s psilocibinom,</i>

1504
00:44:37,675 --> 00:44:39,885
<i>spojina</i>

1505
00:44:37,675 --> 00:44:39,885
<i>čarobnih gob,</i>

1506
00:44:39,927 --> 00:44:42,347
<i>miši so se ločile</i>

1507
00:44:39,927 --> 00:44:42,347
<i>ta povezava.</i>

1508
00:44:42,389 --> 00:44:45,641
Miši so premagale

1509
00:44:42,389 --> 00:44:45,641
s strahom pogojen odziv.

1510
00:44:45,682 --> 00:44:47,436
[Sanchez-Ramos]

1511
00:44:45,682 --> 00:44:47,436
<i>Začeli smo z zelo majhnimi odmerki</i>

1512
00:44:47,476 --> 00:44:50,355
<i>do tako visokega odmerka kot</i>

1513
00:44:47,476 --> 00:44:50,355
<i>en miligram na kilogram.</i>

1514
00:44:50,396 --> 00:44:51,981
Zdaj pa je bilo zanimivo,

1515
00:44:52,023 --> 00:44:53,942
če pogledaš

1516
00:44:52,023 --> 00:44:53,942
pri dvojno označenih celicah,

1517
00:44:53,983 --> 00:44:55,318
z drugimi besedami,

1518
00:44:53,983 --> 00:44:55,318
rojstvo novih nevronov,

1519
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:59,239
<i>videli smo porast</i>

1520
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:59,239
<i>v nevrogenezi.</i>

1521
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:02,032
<i>Nevrogeneza dobesedno pomeni</i>

1522
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:02,032
<i>"nevro" za živce</i>

1523
00:45:02,074 --> 00:45:05,077
<i>in "genesis,"</i>

1524
00:45:02,074 --> 00:45:05,077
<i>ponovno rojstvo ali začetek.</i>

1525
00:45:05,119 --> 00:45:07,038
<i>Ponovna rast nevronov.</i>

1526
00:45:09,541 --> 00:45:13,710
<i>Niso uporabljali istega</i>

1527
00:45:09,541 --> 00:45:13,710
<i>nevrološke poti</i>

1528
00:45:09,541 --> 00:45:13,710
<i>so v preteklosti.</i>

1529
00:45:13,753 --> 00:45:15,505
<i>To je res razburljivo</i>

1530
00:45:15,547 --> 00:45:19,217
<i>ker to pomeni, da možgani</i>

1531
00:45:15,547 --> 00:45:19,217
<i>ima plastičnost,</i>

1532
00:45:19,259 --> 00:45:21,594
<i>je sposoben zdraviti,</i>

1533
00:45:19,259 --> 00:45:21,594
<i>lahko raste.</i>

1534
00:45:21,637 --> 00:45:23,804
<i>Samo potrebuje</i>

1535
00:45:21,637 --> 00:45:23,804
<i>prave spojine</i>

1536
00:45:23,846 --> 00:45:27,016
<i>za pomoč pri razvoju novega</i>

1537
00:45:23,846 --> 00:45:27,016
<i>nevrološke poti.</i>

1538
00:45:28,309 --> 00:45:29,893
<i>Vsi se staramo.</i>

1539
00:45:29,936 --> 00:45:32,021
<i>Vsi bomo nekaj trpeli</i>

1540
00:45:29,936 --> 00:45:32,021
<i>stopnja demence.</i>

1541
00:45:36,485 --> 00:45:38,402
<i>Katere spojine lahko vzamemo</i>

1542
00:45:38,445 --> 00:45:41,697
<i>ki izboljša in</i>

1543
00:45:38,445 --> 00:45:41,697
<i>ohranja nevrogenezo?</i>

1544
00:45:45,867 --> 00:45:47,536
<i>Poznam veliko, veliko ljudi</i>

1545
00:45:47,579 --> 00:45:50,581
<i>ki si ne bi upal vzeti</i>

1546
00:45:47,579 --> 00:45:50,581
<i>potovanje po psilocibinskih gobah,</i>

1547
00:45:50,623 --> 00:45:54,085
ampak koncept njihovega jemanja

1548
00:45:50,623 --> 00:45:54,085
ena 50-ina odmerka,

1549
00:45:54,126 --> 00:45:57,088
nekaj takega,

1550
00:45:54,126 --> 00:45:57,088
in povzroča nevrogenezo

1551
00:45:57,130 --> 00:45:59,965
to bi jih lahko naredilo pametnejše,

1552
00:45:57,130 --> 00:45:59,965
ali boljše volje ali srečnejšega?

1553
00:46:00,007 --> 00:46:02,385
To je celota

1554
00:46:00,007 --> 00:46:02,385
drugačen predmet.

1555
00:46:05,847 --> 00:46:09,809
[pripovedovalec]<i> Smo na</i>

1556
00:46:05,847 --> 00:46:09,809
<i>neskončno iskanje</i>

1557
00:46:05,847 --> 00:46:09,809
<i>za partnerje,</i>

1558
00:46:11,059 --> 00:46:13,855
<i>odnosi, ki potrjujejo življenje,</i>

1559
00:46:16,231 --> 00:46:18,150
<i>ali vsaj,</i>

1560
00:46:18,193 --> 00:46:22,447
<i>hrana za</i>

1561
00:46:18,193 --> 00:46:22,447
<i>naslednja etapa našega potovanja.</i>

1562
00:46:22,489 --> 00:46:26,534
<i>Razcveteli smo</i>

1563
00:46:22,489 --> 00:46:26,534
<i>ob boku s svojo vrsto</i>

1564
00:46:26,576 --> 00:46:30,829
<i>simbiotično</i>

1565
00:46:26,576 --> 00:46:30,829
<i>stoletja.</i>

1566
00:46:33,416 --> 00:46:35,210
[Harman]

1567
00:46:33,416 --> 00:46:35,210
<i>Številne šamanske kulture</i>

1568
00:46:35,251 --> 00:46:37,253
<i>zanašal na gobe</i>

1569
00:46:37,295 --> 00:46:39,838
<i>za njihovo transcendentalno</i>

1570
00:46:37,295 --> 00:46:39,838
<i>izkušnje.</i>

1571
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:44,344
To je predreligija

1572
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:44,344
po vsem svetu.

1573
00:46:44,385 --> 00:46:46,929
<i>Šlo je za vse</i>

1574
00:46:44,385 --> 00:46:46,929
<i>povezava posameznika</i>

1575
00:46:46,971 --> 00:46:48,472
<i>v duhovni svet,</i>

1576
00:46:48,514 --> 00:46:52,809
<i>ali skrivnost, ki je</i>

1577
00:46:48,514 --> 00:46:52,809
<i>naš življenjski kontekst.</i>

1578
00:46:56,105 --> 00:46:58,940
To so starodavni artefakti

1579
00:46:56,105 --> 00:46:58,940
iz kulture Majev.

1580
00:46:58,983 --> 00:47:01,068
Ti se imenujejo

1581
00:46:58,983 --> 00:47:01,068
gobji kamni.

1582
00:47:01,110 --> 00:47:02,612
<i>To je lahko</i>

1583
00:47:01,110 --> 00:47:02,612
<i>največja zbirka</i>

1584
00:47:02,653 --> 00:47:04,614
<i>iz gobjih kamnov</i>

1585
00:47:02,653 --> 00:47:04,614
<i>v svetu.</i>

1586
00:47:04,655 --> 00:47:07,242
<i>Kultura Majev</i>

1587
00:47:04,655 --> 00:47:07,242
<i>je bil zelo mikofilen</i>

1588
00:47:07,282 --> 00:47:10,327
<i>in častili so gobe</i>

1589
00:47:07,282 --> 00:47:10,327
<i>kamni za vedeževanje,</i>

1590
00:47:10,369 --> 00:47:12,621
<i>za duhovnost.</i>

1591
00:47:12,664 --> 00:47:15,291
<i>Tudi biti sposoben</i>

1592
00:47:12,664 --> 00:47:15,291
<i>predvideti prihajajoče vojske,</i>

1593
00:47:15,333 --> 00:47:17,418
<i>in kako oblikovati strategijo</i>

1594
00:47:15,333 --> 00:47:17,418
<i>proti njim.</i>

1595
00:47:26,344 --> 00:47:30,889
<i>Odličen etnomikolog</i>

1596
00:47:26,344 --> 00:47:30,889
<i>ime R. Gordon Wasson</i>

1597
00:47:30,931 --> 00:47:33,351
<i>izmislil frazo</i>

1598
00:47:30,931 --> 00:47:33,351
<i>mikofilija,</i>

1599
00:47:33,393 --> 00:47:35,686
<i>ljubezen do gob</i>

1600
00:47:33,393 --> 00:47:35,686
<i>ki so ga delili Maji.</i>

1601
00:47:35,728 --> 00:47:37,773
<i>Mikofobija</i>

1602
00:47:35,728 --> 00:47:37,773
<i>je klasično--</i>

1603
00:47:37,813 --> 00:47:39,940
<i>angleščina</i>

1604
00:47:37,813 --> 00:47:39,940
<i>bali so se gob</i>

1605
00:47:39,981 --> 00:47:41,943
<i>ker so enigmatični.</i>

1606
00:47:41,983 --> 00:47:44,027
Veste, te gobe

1607
00:47:41,983 --> 00:47:44,027
lahko te dvigne,

1608
00:47:44,070 --> 00:47:46,782
lahko te ozdravijo,

1609
00:47:44,070 --> 00:47:46,782
lahko te nahranijo,

1610
00:47:44,070 --> 00:47:46,782
lahko te ubijejo.

1611
00:47:46,822 --> 00:47:50,284
In tako tisto, kar je tako močno

1612
00:47:46,822 --> 00:47:50,284
se naravno boji.

1613
00:47:50,326 --> 00:47:52,369
[Nicholas Cozzi]<i> Wasson je bil</i>

1614
00:47:50,326 --> 00:47:52,369
<i>amaterski mikolog,</i>

1615
00:47:52,411 --> 00:47:54,871
<i>oseba, ki</i>

1616
00:47:52,411 --> 00:47:54,871
<i>preučuje gobe</i>

1617
00:47:54,914 --> 00:48:01,503
in bil povabljen k sodelovanju

1618
00:47:54,914 --> 00:48:01,503
na slovesnosti<i>curandera,</i>

1619
00:48:01,545 --> 00:48:04,757
<i>Marija Sabina leta 1955.</i>

1620
00:48:05,634 --> 00:48:07,760
<i>Vzel je te gobe</i>

1621
00:48:07,802 --> 00:48:11,139
<i>in imel</i>

1622
00:48:07,802 --> 00:48:11,139
<i>psihedelična izkušnja...</i>

1623
00:48:13,056 --> 00:48:15,434
[P. Stamets]<i> In kdaj</i>

1624
00:48:13,056 --> 00:48:15,434
<i>R. Prišel je Gordon Wasson</i>

1625
00:48:13,056 --> 00:48:15,434
<i>s to raziskavo</i>

1626
00:48:15,476 --> 00:48:18,688
<i>ki je bil objavljen</i>

1627
00:48:15,476 --> 00:48:18,688
<i>v reviji Life leta 1957...</i>

1628
00:48:20,856 --> 00:48:24,693
<i>to je bilo v bistvu polje</i>

1629
00:48:20,856 --> 00:48:24,693
<i>vodnik po psilocibinskih gobah</i>

1630
00:48:24,735 --> 00:48:27,447
<i>dostavljeno na desetine</i>

1631
00:48:24,735 --> 00:48:27,447
<i>milijoni Američanov</i>

1632
00:48:27,489 --> 00:48:31,576
<i>na njihovem pragu, med</i>

1633
00:48:27,489 --> 00:48:31,576
<i>vrhunec hladne vojne.</i>

1634
00:48:31,617 --> 00:48:34,496
To se je potem hitro opazilo

1635
00:48:31,617 --> 00:48:34,496
s strani akademikov na Harvardu

1636
00:48:34,536 --> 00:48:39,250
<i>in druge šole Ivy League</i>

1637
00:48:34,536 --> 00:48:39,250
<i>in nato</i> poznavalci,

1638
00:48:39,291 --> 00:48:45,757
<i>vključno s Timothyjem Learyjem,</i>

1639
00:48:39,291 --> 00:48:45,757
<i>Ram Dass in dr. Andrew Weil.</i>

1640
00:48:45,798 --> 00:48:48,092
Zakaj gobe

1641
00:48:45,798 --> 00:48:48,092
proizvajajo molekule

1642
00:48:48,134 --> 00:48:51,012
ki ustrezajo receptorjem

1643
00:48:48,134 --> 00:48:51,012
človeški možgani in telo?

1644
00:48:51,052 --> 00:48:53,389
<i>Kaj to pravi?</i>

1645
00:48:51,052 --> 00:48:53,389
<i>Kaj to pomeni?</i>

1646
00:48:53,431 --> 00:48:56,768
<i>Mislim, ali to pomeni</i>

1647
00:48:53,431 --> 00:48:56,768
<i>kar bi morali</i>

1648
00:48:53,431 --> 00:48:56,768
<i>uporabljate te stvari?</i>

1649
00:48:56,809 --> 00:49:00,021
Psihedeliki med

1650
00:48:56,809 --> 00:49:00,021
50. in 60. leta

1651
00:49:00,061 --> 00:49:02,440
bili vrhunski

1652
00:49:00,061 --> 00:49:02,440
psihiatričnih raziskav.

1653
00:49:02,481 --> 00:49:04,317
Bile so izjemne študije

1654
00:49:04,358 --> 00:49:08,780
z zelo, zelo

1655
00:49:04,358 --> 00:49:08,780
obetavne ugotovitve.

1656
00:49:08,822 --> 00:49:12,949
[Ross] <i> Psihedeliki so postali del</i>

1657
00:49:08,822 --> 00:49:12,949
<i>raziskav v psihiatriji</i>

1658
00:49:08,822 --> 00:49:12,949
<i>30 let.</i>

1659
00:49:12,992 --> 00:49:16,579
in bilo jih je več

1660
00:49:12,992 --> 00:49:16,579
zelo zanimive indikacije

1661
00:49:12,992 --> 00:49:16,579
da so bili raziskani.

1662
00:49:16,621 --> 00:49:19,708
Najboljši podatki so bili pravzaprav

1663
00:49:16,621 --> 00:49:19,708
za alkoholizem.

1664
00:49:19,748 --> 00:49:22,460
[Grob]<i> Ugotovili smo, da imamo</i>

1665
00:49:19,748 --> 00:49:22,460
<i>mistična izkušnja</i>

1666
00:49:22,501 --> 00:49:24,211
<i>med tečajem</i>

1667
00:49:22,501 --> 00:49:24,211
<i>ene seje</i>

1668
00:49:24,253 --> 00:49:27,548
je bil najmočnejši napovedovalec

1669
00:49:24,253 --> 00:49:27,548
pozitivnega rezultata,

1670
00:49:27,590 --> 00:49:31,887
<i>kar pomeni ohranjanje treznosti</i>

1671
00:49:27,590 --> 00:49:31,887
<i>v dolgem obdobju spremljanja.</i>

1672
00:49:31,927 --> 00:49:34,597
<i>Bilo je zelo impresivno.</i>

1673
00:49:34,639 --> 00:49:36,349
[Pollan]

1674
00:49:34,639 --> 00:49:36,349
<i>Nekatera od teh zdravil,</i>

1675
00:49:36,391 --> 00:49:38,893
<i>so "pobegnili iz laboratorija,"</i>

1676
00:49:36,391 --> 00:49:38,893
<i>kot pravi stavek.</i>

1677
00:49:40,101 --> 00:49:42,313
<i>Milijoni ljudi</i>

1678
00:49:40,101 --> 00:49:42,313
<i>so jih uporabljali</i>

1679
00:49:42,355 --> 00:49:44,065
<i>in zavedati se moraš</i>

1680
00:49:44,106 --> 00:49:47,568
<i>da je bila to radikalna sila</i>

1681
00:49:44,106 --> 00:49:47,568
<i>sprožen na zahodu.</i>

1682
00:49:54,282 --> 00:49:57,327
[Timothy Leary]<i> Otroci, ki</i>

1683
00:49:54,282 --> 00:49:57,327
<i>psihedeliki niso</i>

1684
00:49:54,282 --> 00:49:57,327
<i>bojeval se bom v tvojih vojnah.</i>

1685
00:49:57,369 --> 00:49:59,371
<i>Ne bodo se pridružili</i>

1686
00:49:57,369 --> 00:49:59,371
<i>vaše korporacije,</i>

1687
00:49:59,414 --> 00:50:01,331
<i>tega ne bodo kupili.</i>

1688
00:50:01,373 --> 00:50:04,376
[Bill Richards]

1689
00:50:01,373 --> 00:50:04,376
<i>Veliko se je dogajalo</i>

1690
00:50:01,373 --> 00:50:04,376
<i>nazaj v 60-ih.</i>

1691
00:50:04,418 --> 00:50:07,963
<i>To je bil čas</i>

1692
00:50:04,418 --> 00:50:07,963
<i>hitre kulturne spremembe.</i>

1693
00:50:08,005 --> 00:50:10,925
Prisotni so bili iracionalni strahovi

1694
00:50:10,967 --> 00:50:14,177
približno preveč

1695
00:50:10,967 --> 00:50:14,177
prehitre kulturne spremembe.

1696
00:50:14,219 --> 00:50:17,389
Predsednik Nixon

1697
00:50:14,219 --> 00:50:17,389
imenovan Timothy Leary

1698
00:50:17,431 --> 00:50:19,893
najnevarnejši človek

1699
00:50:17,431 --> 00:50:19,893
v Ameriki.

1700
00:50:19,934 --> 00:50:22,686
Moramo plačati kaj

1701
00:50:19,934 --> 00:50:22,686
Imenoval sem totalno vojno

1702
00:50:22,728 --> 00:50:25,940
proti javnemu sovražniku številka ena

1703
00:50:22,728 --> 00:50:25,940
v Združenih državah Amerike,

1704
00:50:25,981 --> 00:50:28,025
problem

1705
00:50:25,981 --> 00:50:28,025
z nevarnimi mamili.

1706
00:50:30,778 --> 00:50:32,822
Ko vsi pravijo

1707
00:50:30,778 --> 00:50:32,822
"gobe" zame,

1708
00:50:32,864 --> 00:50:34,699
prikliče celotno idejo

1709
00:50:34,740 --> 00:50:37,409
uporabe psilocibinskih gob

1710
00:50:34,740 --> 00:50:37,409
kot zabavna droga,

1711
00:50:37,452 --> 00:50:41,079
<i>So veliko bolj pomembni</i>

1712
00:50:37,452 --> 00:50:41,079
<i>kot samo napivanje.</i>

1713
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:49,505
Gibanje za marginalizacijo

1714
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:49,505
glavni psihedeliki

1715
00:50:49,547 --> 00:50:51,172
je neverjetno zapleteno.

1716
00:50:51,215 --> 00:50:54,635
<i>Mislim, priključen je na</i>

1717
00:50:51,215 --> 00:50:54,635
<i>protikulturno gibanje,</i>

1718
00:50:54,677 --> 00:51:00,307
<i>protivojno gibanje,</i>

1719
00:50:54,677 --> 00:51:00,307
<i>gibanje proti establišmentu.</i>

1720
00:51:00,349 --> 00:51:04,061
<i>Obstaja veliko, veliko sil</i>

1721
00:51:00,349 --> 00:51:04,061
<i>ki so bili v igri.</i>

1722
00:51:11,152 --> 00:51:13,237
[Richards]

1723
00:51:11,152 --> 00:51:13,237
<i>Nekako je pregorela varovalka</i>

1724
00:51:13,278 --> 00:51:15,572
<i>in ena od žrtev je bila</i>

1725
00:51:15,614 --> 00:51:19,494
medicinske raziskave

1726
00:51:15,614 --> 00:51:19,494
s psihedeliki.

1727
00:51:19,534 --> 00:51:24,414
<i>Bilo je zelo neracionalno</i>

1728
00:51:19,534 --> 00:51:24,414
<i>in protiznanstvena klima</i>

1729
00:51:24,456 --> 00:51:27,543
<i>ki je bil celo napajan</i>

1730
00:51:24,456 --> 00:51:27,543
<i>v vladnih pamfletih,</i>

1731
00:51:27,585 --> 00:51:30,211
<i>res imel</i>

1732
00:51:27,585 --> 00:51:30,211
<i>izkrivljene informacije</i>

1733
00:51:30,253 --> 00:51:33,507
<i>to ni bilo</i>

1734
00:51:30,253 --> 00:51:33,507
<i>znanstveno natančno.</i>

1735
00:51:35,050 --> 00:51:37,846
Bila je slaba pot,

1736
00:51:35,050 --> 00:51:37,846
takojšnja norost.

1737
00:51:39,972 --> 00:51:42,766
[Ross]<i>Raziskava je prišla</i>

1738
00:51:39,972 --> 00:51:42,766
<i>do ustavitve leta 1970.</i>

1739
00:51:42,809 --> 00:51:44,434
<i>Vojna je bila napovedana drogam.</i>

1740
00:51:44,476 --> 00:51:46,561
<i>Nadzorovane snovi</i>

1741
00:51:44,476 --> 00:51:46,561
<i>Zakon je bil sprejet</i>

1742
00:51:46,603 --> 00:51:48,563
<i>in raziskave</i>

1743
00:51:46,603 --> 00:51:48,563
<i>je bil v bistvu izbrisan</i>

1744
00:51:48,606 --> 00:51:51,693
<i>od učenja</i>

1745
00:51:48,606 --> 00:51:51,693
<i>v psihiatriji.</i>

1746
00:51:51,733 --> 00:51:55,362
[Richards]

1747
00:51:51,733 --> 00:51:55,362
<i>Mislim, da sem morda dvomljiv</i>

1748
00:51:51,733 --> 00:51:55,362
<i>odlika, da si zadnji</i>

1749
00:51:55,403 --> 00:51:59,199
za dajanje psilocibina

1750
00:51:55,403 --> 00:51:59,199
bolniku z rakom

1751
00:51:59,240 --> 00:52:02,786
v Marylandu

1752
00:51:59,240 --> 00:52:02,786
Center za psihiatrične raziskave.

1753
00:52:02,829 --> 00:52:06,081
<i>In potem raziskava</i>

1754
00:52:02,829 --> 00:52:06,081
<i>postal popolnoma mirujoč.</i>

1755
00:52:10,753 --> 00:52:13,505
<i>V naši evoluciji</i>

1756
00:52:10,753 --> 00:52:13,505
<i>kot vrsta,</i>

1757
00:52:13,547 --> 00:52:15,884
<i>smo na točki</i>

1758
00:52:13,547 --> 00:52:15,884
<i>sprijazniti se</i>

1759
00:52:15,925 --> 00:52:19,594
<i>z veliko spremembo paradigme.</i>

1760
00:52:19,637 --> 00:52:24,224
<i>Sprememba našega pogleda</i>

1761
00:52:19,637 --> 00:52:24,224
<i>kar imenujemo resničnost.</i>

1762
00:52:27,978 --> 00:52:34,275
<i>In to vedno prikliče</i>

1763
00:52:27,978 --> 00:52:34,275
<i>napetost in strahovi.</i>

1764
00:52:34,318 --> 00:52:39,949
<i>Kultura, ki se je želi oprijeti</i>

1765
00:52:34,318 --> 00:52:39,949
<i>star pogled na vesolje.</i>

1766
00:52:45,038 --> 00:52:47,498
[P. Stamets]

1767
00:52:45,038 --> 00:52:47,498
<i>Zavedate se, da ste</i>

1768
00:52:45,038 --> 00:52:47,498
<i>je bil ves ta čas omejen</i>

1769
00:52:47,539 --> 00:52:49,458
<i>z vašega vidika</i>

1770
00:52:47,539 --> 00:52:49,458
<i>resničnosti.</i>

1771
00:52:49,500 --> 00:52:54,047
<i>Če bi vam bila resničnost znana</i>

1772
00:52:49,500 --> 00:52:54,047
<i>na tej ravni zgodaj,</i>

1773
00:52:54,088 --> 00:52:56,882
<i>koliko bolj razvit</i>

1774
00:52:54,088 --> 00:52:56,882
<i>ali bi bili kot bitja?</i>

1775
00:52:58,217 --> 00:53:00,427
<i>Veliko ljudi bi</i>

1776
00:52:58,217 --> 00:53:00,427
<i>boj se tega.</i>

1777
00:53:03,972 --> 00:53:06,434
<i>To je zelo</i>

1778
00:53:03,972 --> 00:53:06,434
<i>nevarno ozemlje.</i>

1779
00:53:06,474 --> 00:53:10,438
<i>Ljudje želijo odnehati</i>

1780
00:53:06,474 --> 00:53:10,438
<i>odgovornost</i>

1781
00:53:06,474 --> 00:53:10,438
<i>biti sposoben razumeti</i>

1782
00:53:10,478 --> 00:53:12,940
in ker oni

1783
00:53:10,478 --> 00:53:12,940
ne razumem,

1784
00:53:10,478 --> 00:53:12,940
potem imajo vero.

1785
00:53:12,981 --> 00:53:16,318
in dali so svojo vero

1786
00:53:12,981 --> 00:53:16,318
pri drugih ljudeh, ki pravijo

1787
00:53:12,981 --> 00:53:16,318
lahko razumejo.

1788
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:19,237
In mislim, da je to situacija

1789
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:22,282
ki je zrel za

1790
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:22,282
grabežljivo razmerje.

1791
00:53:31,375 --> 00:53:33,710
[Bob Jesse] <i> Vsakdo, ki je imel</i>

1792
00:53:31,375 --> 00:53:33,710
<i>ena od teh izkušenj</i>

1793
00:53:33,753 --> 00:53:35,963
v državi, kjer je

1794
00:53:33,753 --> 00:53:35,963
jih ni zakonito imeti

1795
00:53:36,005 --> 00:53:37,757
je obtičal v tem položaju

1796
00:53:37,798 --> 00:53:40,175
kje nekaj

1797
00:53:37,798 --> 00:53:40,175
res dragoceno...

1798
00:53:40,217 --> 00:53:43,804
in resnično daje

1799
00:53:40,217 --> 00:53:43,804
veliko darilo za vas

1800
00:53:43,846 --> 00:53:46,641
se ne razume

1801
00:53:43,846 --> 00:53:46,641
s strani kulture nasploh

1802
00:53:46,681 --> 00:53:49,936
in poleg tega vas postavi oz

1803
00:53:46,681 --> 00:53:49,936
drugi ljudje ali/in drugi ljudje

1804
00:53:49,978 --> 00:53:51,686
v nevarnosti sodnega pregona.

1805
00:53:53,688 --> 00:53:55,190
In en odgovor na to

1806
00:53:55,231 --> 00:53:57,400
jeziti se,

1807
00:53:57,443 --> 00:53:59,112
in se želeti boriti proti temu.

1808
00:53:59,153 --> 00:54:01,155
In še odgovor

1809
00:53:59,153 --> 00:54:01,155
temu je reči,

1810
00:54:01,197 --> 00:54:04,282
"Samo razložiti moramo

1811
00:54:01,197 --> 00:54:04,282
ljudem, kaj se tukaj dogaja."

1812
00:54:04,324 --> 00:54:05,952
In ko ljudje to razumejo,

1813
00:54:05,994 --> 00:54:09,621
potem bo

1814
00:54:05,994 --> 00:54:09,621
namestitev in spoštovanje.

1815
00:54:11,623 --> 00:54:13,751
<i>Obstaja več starešin</i>

1816
00:54:11,623 --> 00:54:13,751
<i>živeti v Bay Area</i>

1817
00:54:13,793 --> 00:54:15,585
<i>ki so posvetili nekaj dela</i>

1818
00:54:13,793 --> 00:54:15,585
<i>njihove kariere</i>

1819
00:54:15,628 --> 00:54:18,297
<i>v psihologiji</i>

1820
00:54:15,628 --> 00:54:18,297
<i>ali verouk</i>

1821
00:54:18,338 --> 00:54:19,882
<i>ki je bil na koncu povabljen</i>

1822
00:54:19,923 --> 00:54:22,885
<i>na majhno vabilo</i>

1823
00:54:19,923 --> 00:54:22,885
<i>konferenca v Esalnu</i>

1824
00:54:22,927 --> 00:54:26,014
<i>imenovan pacifiški simpozij</i>

1825
00:54:22,927 --> 00:54:26,014
<i>o psihedeličnih drogah.</i>

1826
00:54:26,054 --> 00:54:28,349
<i>Ko sva hodila po sobi</i>

1827
00:54:26,054 --> 00:54:28,349
<i>predstavitev,</i>

1828
00:54:28,389 --> 00:54:30,018
<i>večina ljudi</i>

1829
00:54:28,389 --> 00:54:30,018
<i>ki so bili kliniki</i>

1830
00:54:30,059 --> 00:54:31,768
<i>so navdušeno govorili</i>

1831
00:54:31,811 --> 00:54:33,855
<i>kakšno klinično</i>

1832
00:54:31,811 --> 00:54:33,855
<i>poskus, ki bi ga izvedli</i>

1833
00:54:33,896 --> 00:54:35,940
<i>če bi ga lahko uporabili</i>

1834
00:54:33,896 --> 00:54:35,940
<i>teh snovi</i>

1835
00:54:35,981 --> 00:54:37,358
<i>za zdravljenje PTSD...</i>

1836
00:54:37,398 --> 00:54:40,235
<i>ali za zdravljenje depresije.</i>

1837
00:54:40,277 --> 00:54:42,780
[Richards] <i> Pisali smo</i>

1838
00:54:40,277 --> 00:54:42,780
<i>najboljši dizajn, ki ga lahko.</i>

1839
00:54:42,822 --> 00:54:46,909
Predložili smo ga FDA

1840
00:54:42,822 --> 00:54:46,909
in so ga odobrili.

1841
00:54:46,951 --> 00:54:48,577
To je bilo 1999,

1842
00:54:48,619 --> 00:54:52,789
<i>in se je ponovno aktiviral</i>

1843
00:54:48,619 --> 00:54:52,789
<i>psihedelične raziskave</i>

1844
00:54:52,831 --> 00:54:58,503
<i>v bistvu po 22 letih</i>

1845
00:54:52,831 --> 00:54:58,503
<i>mirovanje v Združenih državah.</i>

1846
00:54:58,545 --> 00:55:00,797
To je kot

1847
00:54:58,545 --> 00:55:00,797
učinek Rip Van Winkle.

1848
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:04,592
veš,

1849
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:04,592
prebuja se 20 let kasneje.

1850
00:55:04,635 --> 00:55:06,469
Metodologije,

1851
00:55:06,512 --> 00:55:10,224
<i>vprašanja, ki jih lahko postavimo</i>

1852
00:55:06,512 --> 00:55:10,224
<i>na toliko različnih ravneh.</i>

1853
00:55:14,896 --> 00:55:17,898
[Tony Head]<i>Postavili so mi diagnozo</i>

1854
00:55:14,896 --> 00:55:17,898
<i>z rakom prostate.</i>

1855
00:55:17,940 --> 00:55:22,652
Moja diagnoza je bila tako slaba

1856
00:55:17,940 --> 00:55:22,652
to ...

1857
00:55:22,695 --> 00:55:27,199
Veste, niso mi dali

1858
00:55:22,695 --> 00:55:27,199
kakršnakoli možnost.

1859
00:55:27,242 --> 00:55:31,746
[Judith Goedeke]<i> Moja diagnoza</i>

1860
00:55:27,242 --> 00:55:31,746
<i>je bil rak na ledvicah.</i>

1861
00:55:31,786 --> 00:55:37,918
Ugotovite, da morda želite

1862
00:55:31,786 --> 00:55:37,918
da urediš svoje zadeve.

1863
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:39,795
[Head]<i> Najprej sem izvedel</i>

1864
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:39,795
<i>o študiju</i>

1865
00:55:39,836 --> 00:55:42,380
<i>ko je moj onkolog</i>

1866
00:55:39,836 --> 00:55:42,380
<i>mi je dal brošuro.</i>

1867
00:55:42,422 --> 00:55:46,427
<i>Rekel je: "Tu je nekaj</i>

1868
00:55:42,422 --> 00:55:46,427
<i>to bi morda lahko pomagalo</i>

1869
00:55:42,422 --> 00:55:46,427
<i>ti s tesnobo."</i>

1870
00:55:47,677 --> 00:55:50,264
<i>In bil sem sprejet</i>

1871
00:55:47,677 --> 00:55:50,264
<i>v delovno sobo.</i>

1872
00:55:50,306 --> 00:55:51,639
Najbolj pomembna stvar

1873
00:55:51,681 --> 00:55:55,476
je zapomniti

1874
00:55:51,681 --> 00:55:55,476
da si vedno varen.

1875
00:55:55,518 --> 00:55:59,773
In priporočilo je

1876
00:55:55,518 --> 00:55:59,773
da karkoli že prihaja,

1877
00:55:59,815 --> 00:56:01,067
da dovolite,

1878
00:56:01,108 --> 00:56:03,152
da ti ni treba biti všeč,

1879
00:56:03,193 --> 00:56:05,070
ampak praviš v redu,

1880
00:56:05,112 --> 00:56:07,782
namesto da bi poskušal

1881
00:56:05,112 --> 00:56:07,782
pobegniti od tega.

1882
00:56:07,822 --> 00:56:10,659
<i>Ko je prostovoljec</i>

1883
00:56:07,822 --> 00:56:10,659
<i>vpisan v študij,</i>

1884
00:56:10,701 --> 00:56:13,036
z nami so

1885
00:56:10,701 --> 00:56:13,036
za pripravo,

1886
00:56:13,079 --> 00:56:14,413
psilocibinske seje

1887
00:56:14,454 --> 00:56:16,831
in integracijo

1888
00:56:14,454 --> 00:56:16,831
spremljanje po.

1889
00:56:16,873 --> 00:56:22,797
<i>Bil sem vodnik</i>

1890
00:56:16,873 --> 00:56:22,797
<i>okoli 350 sej psilocibina</i>

1891
00:56:22,838 --> 00:56:24,422
<i>in potem približno tisoč</i>

1892
00:56:24,465 --> 00:56:26,967
<i>pripravljalnega</i>

1893
00:56:24,465 --> 00:56:26,967
<i>in integracijska srečanja.</i>

1894
00:56:27,009 --> 00:56:28,385
v redu

1895
00:56:29,552 --> 00:56:31,222
V redu, dvigni glavo.

1896
00:56:31,264 --> 00:56:34,057
<i>V resnici gre samo za</i>

1897
00:56:31,264 --> 00:56:34,057
<i>doživljanje tega, kar pride</i>

1898
00:56:34,099 --> 00:56:36,601
<i>ko začne psilocibin učinkovati.</i>

1899
00:56:56,413 --> 00:56:58,456
[Glava]<i> V intenzivnem delu</i>

1900
00:56:56,413 --> 00:56:58,456
<i>tega potovanja,</i>

1901
00:56:58,498 --> 00:57:01,751
<i>ta svet in stvari</i>

1902
00:56:58,498 --> 00:57:01,751
<i>ki so pomembne za večino ljudi,</i>

1903
00:57:01,793 --> 00:57:03,211
<i>družina in vse to,</i>

1904
00:57:03,253 --> 00:57:05,922
<i>to niti ni bilo</i>

1905
00:57:03,253 --> 00:57:05,922
<i>za kaj je šlo.</i>

1906
00:57:05,965 --> 00:57:08,467
<i>Pravijo karkoli mističnega</i>

1907
00:57:05,965 --> 00:57:08,467
<i>ni mogoče razložiti.</i>

1908
00:57:08,509 --> 00:57:10,135
To je nekaj takega.

1909
00:57:10,177 --> 00:57:15,391
To je občutek

1910
00:57:10,177 --> 00:57:15,391
tako neizmerne moči

1911
00:57:15,431 --> 00:57:18,101
<i>kar si ne morete niti predstavljati.</i>

1912
00:57:18,143 --> 00:57:20,646
<i>Nikoli nisem čutil</i>

1913
00:57:18,143 --> 00:57:20,646
<i>karkoli podobnega prej.</i>

1914
00:57:23,315 --> 00:57:27,652
<i>Šlo je za to, da sem bil na mestu</i>

1915
00:57:23,315 --> 00:57:27,652
<i>neskončnega prostora</i>

1916
00:57:27,695 --> 00:57:30,697
<i>in samo biti tam.</i>

1917
00:57:35,702 --> 00:57:38,373
[Griffiths]<i>Tam je</i>

1918
00:57:35,702 --> 00:57:38,373
<i>izkušnja pozitivnega razpoloženja,</i>

1919
00:57:38,414 --> 00:57:41,291
<i>včasih</i>

1920
00:57:38,414 --> 00:57:41,291
<i>odkritosrčnost, ljubezen,</i>

1921
00:57:41,333 --> 00:57:43,335
<i>transcendenca</i>

1922
00:57:41,333 --> 00:57:43,335
<i>časa in prostora,</i>

1923
00:57:43,378 --> 00:57:47,005
<i>in končno, je</i>

1924
00:57:43,378 --> 00:57:47,005
<i>mislijo, da je neizrekljivo.</i>

1925
00:57:48,507 --> 00:57:51,760
Ljudje pravijo: "Ne morem opisati

1926
00:57:48,507 --> 00:57:51,760
ta izkušnja."

1927
00:57:57,099 --> 00:57:59,809
[Goedeke] <i> V mislih sem rekel,</i>

1928
00:57:57,099 --> 00:57:59,809
<i>»V redu, počakaj.</i>

1929
00:57:59,851 --> 00:58:02,230
Če se ti prepustim ...

1930
00:58:03,063 --> 00:58:04,481
mi lahko obljubiš

1931
00:58:04,523 --> 00:58:09,485
da bom vsaj v

1932
00:58:04,523 --> 00:58:09,485
tako močne oblike

1933
00:58:09,527 --> 00:58:12,239
<i>kot takrat, ko sem vstopil v to sobo?"</i>

1934
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:15,909
<i>In začutil sem glas</i>

1935
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:15,909
<i>ki sem ga moral upoštevati.</i>

1936
00:58:17,494 --> 00:58:23,000
<i>"Misliš, da bi jaz</i>

1937
00:58:17,494 --> 00:58:23,000
<i>ne spoštujem svojega dela?"</i>

1938
00:58:25,210 --> 00:58:27,755
<i>To je glas</i>

1939
00:58:25,210 --> 00:58:27,755
<i>z višine pravim,</i>

1940
00:58:27,795 --> 00:58:31,050
<i>"Misliš, da bi jaz</i>

1941
00:58:27,795 --> 00:58:31,050
<i>ne spoštujem svojega otroka?"</i>

1942
00:58:31,967 --> 00:58:35,137
<i>In počutila sem se tako lepo.</i>

1943
00:58:36,389 --> 00:58:40,976
<i>Počutil sem se, kot da sem</i>

1944
00:58:36,389 --> 00:58:40,976
<i>še nikoli prej.</i>

1945
00:58:41,018 --> 00:58:43,144
<i>Moj občutek, da sem ljubljen,</i>

1946
00:58:43,186 --> 00:58:48,900
biti vreden ljubezni,

1947
00:58:43,186 --> 00:58:48,900
biti poskrbljen,

1948
00:58:48,943 --> 00:58:53,239
biti pomemben

1949
00:58:48,943 --> 00:58:53,239
nekomu.

1950
00:58:56,992 --> 00:58:58,577
Ogromno je.

1951
00:59:02,998 --> 00:59:06,376
Greš vanj,

1952
00:59:02,998 --> 00:59:06,376
lepo ti gre.

1953
00:59:22,851 --> 00:59:25,813
[Griffiths]<i> Ena tretjina</i>

1954
00:59:22,851 --> 00:59:25,813
<i>posameznikov v študiji</i>

1955
00:59:25,853 --> 00:59:28,190
<i>rekel je, da je najbolj singl</i>

1956
00:59:28,231 --> 00:59:31,152
duhovno pomemben

1957
00:59:28,231 --> 00:59:31,152
izkušnje svojega življenja.

1958
00:59:31,860 --> 00:59:34,070
Približno 70% pravi

1959
00:59:34,112 --> 00:59:39,327
je med petimi

1960
00:59:34,112 --> 00:59:39,327
najbolj osebno pomembna

1961
00:59:34,112 --> 00:59:39,327
izkušnje svojega življenja.

1962
00:59:39,367 --> 00:59:42,621
Potem rečeš,

1963
00:59:39,367 --> 00:59:42,621
"No, kaj to pomeni?"

1964
00:59:42,663 --> 00:59:45,458
veš

1965
00:59:42,663 --> 00:59:45,458
In sprva sem mislil,

1966
00:59:45,500 --> 00:59:49,545
Sprašujem se, če nimajo

1967
00:59:45,500 --> 00:59:49,545
precej dolgočasno življenje.

1968
00:59:49,585 --> 00:59:52,130
ampak ne,

1969
00:59:49,585 --> 00:59:52,130
ljudje bi rekli,

1970
00:59:52,172 --> 00:59:56,635
<i>veš, ko je moj prvorojenec</i>

1971
00:59:52,172 --> 00:59:56,635
<i>prišel na ta svet,</i>

1972
00:59:56,677 --> 00:59:58,219
<i>Tega ne bom nikoli pozabil.</i>

1973
00:59:58,262 --> 01:00:01,139
<i>In življenje nikoli</i>

1974
00:59:58,262 --> 01:00:01,139
<i>od takrat je enako.</i>

1975
01:00:01,181 --> 01:00:05,643
<i>Ali pa je moj oče umrl.</i>

1976
01:00:01,181 --> 01:00:05,643
<i>To me je zelo ganilo.</i>

1977
01:00:05,686 --> 01:00:07,480
Zdaj sem drugačen

1978
01:00:05,686 --> 01:00:07,480
v svetu.

1979
01:00:07,521 --> 01:00:09,981
Pravijo, veš,

1980
01:00:07,521 --> 01:00:09,981
nekako tako je.

1981
01:00:12,733 --> 01:00:15,695
[Glava]<i> Najbolj</i>

1982
01:00:12,733 --> 01:00:15,695
<i>to je bil veličasten del</i>

1983
01:00:15,737 --> 01:00:20,409
počutil sem se bolj

1984
01:00:15,737 --> 01:00:20,409
udobno bivanje,

1985
01:00:20,451 --> 01:00:23,161
veš,

1986
01:00:20,451 --> 01:00:23,161
ker, uh...

1987
01:00:23,204 --> 01:00:26,081
ne bojiš se smrti.

1988
01:00:27,916 --> 01:00:30,960
[Griffiths] <i> Iskreno,</i>

1989
01:00:27,916 --> 01:00:30,960
<i>Sem samo laboratorijski znanstvenik</i>

1990
01:00:31,003 --> 01:00:33,588
in na to nisem bil pripravljen.

1991
01:00:33,630 --> 01:00:37,842
[Richards]<i> Iz spomina</i>

1992
01:00:33,630 --> 01:00:37,842
<i>transcendentalnega stanja</i>

1993
01:00:33,630 --> 01:00:37,842
<i>zavesti,</i>

1994
01:00:37,885 --> 01:00:42,347
veliko ljudi poroča o manjši tesnobi,

1995
01:00:37,885 --> 01:00:42,347
manj depresije,

1996
01:00:42,389 --> 01:00:45,226
manj skrbi

1997
01:00:42,389 --> 01:00:45,226
z bolečino,

1998
01:00:45,266 --> 01:00:48,603
<i>bližje medosebno</i>

1999
01:00:45,266 --> 01:00:48,603
<i>odnosi,</i>

2000
01:00:48,644 --> 01:00:50,856
<i>in morda najbolj impresivno,</i>

2001
01:00:50,898 --> 01:00:55,193
trdijo, da imajo izgubo

2002
01:00:50,898 --> 01:00:55,193
strahu pred smrtjo.

2003
01:00:55,235 --> 01:00:58,280
<i>Ponovno umeri</i>

2004
01:00:55,235 --> 01:00:58,280
<i>kako vidijo smrt.</i>

2005
01:00:58,322 --> 01:01:02,201
[Anthony Bossis]

2006
01:00:58,322 --> 01:01:02,201
<i>Neverjetno jih je bilo poslušati</i>

2007
01:00:58,322 --> 01:01:02,201
<i>govorite o tej zamisli o ljubezni.</i>

2008
01:01:03,077 --> 01:01:04,411
<i>Veliko jih je govorilo o</i>

2009
01:01:04,452 --> 01:01:06,414
kako narava sama

2010
01:01:04,452 --> 01:01:06,414
je nekaj podobnega

2011
01:01:06,454 --> 01:01:08,416
ta snov, imenovana ljubezen.

2012
01:01:09,541 --> 01:01:11,543
<i>In ko sem se tega dotaknil,</i>

2013
01:01:11,585 --> 01:01:14,547
<i>Ponovno so umerili</i>

2014
01:01:11,585 --> 01:01:14,547
<i>in preoblikovali, kako so</i>

2015
01:01:11,585 --> 01:01:14,547
<i>umri drugače.</i>

2016
01:01:21,969 --> 01:01:24,056
[Jesse]<i> Johns Hopkins</i>

2017
01:01:21,969 --> 01:01:24,056
<i>raziskovalna ekipa psilocibina</i>

2018
01:01:24,097 --> 01:01:27,434
<i>se je zaključil ali je v teku</i>

2019
01:01:24,097 --> 01:01:27,434
<i>skupaj devet študij</i>

2020
01:01:27,476 --> 01:01:30,144
in dobil je

2021
01:01:27,476 --> 01:01:30,144
svetovna pozornost.

2022
01:01:34,483 --> 01:01:37,318
<i>Ko smo končno izdali</i>

2023
01:01:34,483 --> 01:01:37,318
<i>rezultati našega prvega poskusa</i>

2024
01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:39,655
<i>v strokovno pregledanem</i>

2025
01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:39,655
<i>znanstvena revija,</i>

2026
01:01:39,695 --> 01:01:41,574
<i>bilo je zelo veselo videti</i>

2027
01:01:41,615 --> 01:01:44,367
kako dnevni tisk

2028
01:01:41,615 --> 01:01:44,367
se je na to odzval.

2029
01:01:44,409 --> 01:01:45,911
Nekaj novic o zdravju

2030
01:01:44,409 --> 01:01:45,911
za vas.

2031
01:01:45,952 --> 01:01:48,664
Enkraten odmerek psihedeličnega

2032
01:01:45,952 --> 01:01:48,664
čarobne gobe

2033
01:01:48,704 --> 01:01:51,291
lahko ljudje s hudimi

2034
01:01:48,704 --> 01:01:51,291
anksioznost in depresija

2035
01:01:51,333 --> 01:01:53,543
mesece se počutite bolje.

2036
01:01:53,585 --> 01:01:56,713
[Richards] <i> Spremeni</i>

2037
01:01:53,585 --> 01:01:56,713
<i>kako gledajo nase,</i>

2038
01:01:56,755 --> 01:01:59,425
<i>drugi ljudje na svetu...</i>

2039
01:01:59,467 --> 01:02:01,760
iz ene same izkušnje,

2040
01:02:01,802 --> 01:02:05,306
ne Prozac, ki ga imate

2041
01:02:01,802 --> 01:02:05,306
jemati dan za dnem.

2042
01:02:06,931 --> 01:02:08,976
[Pollan]

2043
01:02:06,931 --> 01:02:08,976
<i>To niso kronične droge,</i>

2044
01:02:09,016 --> 01:02:11,394
<i>in tam je večina</i>

2045
01:02:09,016 --> 01:02:11,394
<i>raziskave</i>

2046
01:02:11,436 --> 01:02:14,523
<i>in razvoj</i>

2047
01:02:11,436 --> 01:02:14,523
<i>v Big Pharma gre.</i>

2048
01:02:14,565 --> 01:02:17,067
<i>Zdravljenja</i>

2049
01:02:14,565 --> 01:02:17,067
<i>preiskujejo psilocibin</i>

2050
01:02:17,108 --> 01:02:22,114
vključevati enega, dva, morda

2051
01:02:17,108 --> 01:02:22,114
tri tablete. To je to.

2052
01:02:22,155 --> 01:02:23,615
To ni zelo dobro

2053
01:02:22,155 --> 01:02:23,615
poslovni model.

2054
01:02:23,657 --> 01:02:25,742
Ne moreš narediti

2055
01:02:23,657 --> 01:02:25,742
veliko denarja na ta način.

2056
01:02:29,246 --> 01:02:34,208
Jedro tega mističnega

2057
01:02:29,246 --> 01:02:34,208
izkušnje so, hm...

2058
01:02:35,503 --> 01:02:37,253
je skrivnost, odkrito povedano.

2059
01:02:37,295 --> 01:02:39,507
<i>To je eksistencialna skrivnost</i>

2060
01:02:39,547 --> 01:02:41,882
kaj v resnici smo

2061
01:02:39,547 --> 01:02:41,882
delaš tukaj?

2062
01:02:41,925 --> 01:02:44,760
<i>Kaj je pomen</i>

2063
01:02:41,925 --> 01:02:44,760
<i>vsega tega?</i>

2064
01:02:44,802 --> 01:02:48,889
<i>in to je zelo spodbudno</i>

2065
01:02:44,802 --> 01:02:48,889
<i>nekatera izkušnja.</i>

2066
01:02:48,931 --> 01:02:50,099
[Richards] <i> Kot celota,</i>

2067
01:02:50,141 --> 01:02:52,143
obstaja občutek, da sem del

2068
01:02:52,186 --> 01:02:54,271
večjega omrežja.

2069
01:02:54,313 --> 01:03:00,652
<i>In nekako je to bolj resnično</i>

2070
01:02:54,313 --> 01:03:00,652
<i>po mistični izkušnji.</i>

2071
01:03:02,278 --> 01:03:04,197
<i>Čutiš, da ti</i>

2072
01:03:02,278 --> 01:03:04,197
<i>res povezani</i>

2073
01:03:04,239 --> 01:03:05,990
<i>na nek smiseln način</i>

2074
01:03:06,032 --> 01:03:09,244
<i>z vsakim atomom</i>

2075
01:03:06,032 --> 01:03:09,244
<i>vesolja.</i>

2076
01:03:09,286 --> 01:03:11,413
[Griffiths]

2077
01:03:09,286 --> 01:03:11,413
<i>Z mojega vidika,</i>

2078
01:03:11,454 --> 01:03:13,956
ta temeljna izkušnja sporoča

2079
01:03:13,998 --> 01:03:17,335
vse verske,

2080
01:03:13,998 --> 01:03:17,335
etične in moralne tradicije.

2081
01:03:17,378 --> 01:03:21,965
Mislim, to je jedro

2082
01:03:17,378 --> 01:03:21,965
"Ljubi svojega bližnjega kakor samega sebe."

2083
01:03:23,509 --> 01:03:26,469
<i>Če ne dobimo nekaj</i>

2084
01:03:23,509 --> 01:03:26,469
<i>teh prednostnih nalog naravnost</i>

2085
01:03:26,512 --> 01:03:28,929
<i>glede na to, kako</i>

2086
01:03:26,512 --> 01:03:28,929
<i>obravnavamo druge ljudi,</i>

2087
01:03:28,972 --> 01:03:31,932
kako ravnamo z okoljem,

2088
01:03:31,974 --> 01:03:33,643
bomo

2089
01:03:31,974 --> 01:03:33,643
prenehati obstajati.

2090
01:03:33,686 --> 01:03:36,896
Lahko bi videl to

2091
01:03:33,686 --> 01:03:36,896
kot kritičen

2092
01:03:36,938 --> 01:03:39,483
do evolucije

2093
01:03:36,938 --> 01:03:39,483
vrste, odkrito povedano.

2094
01:03:42,110 --> 01:03:44,153
[P. Stamets]<i> Ne bi šel</i>

2095
01:03:42,110 --> 01:03:44,153
<i>pohodništvo po Himalaji</i>

2096
01:03:44,195 --> 01:03:45,655
<i>brez kakršnekoli priprave.</i>

2097
01:03:45,697 --> 01:03:47,782
<i>No, to je potovanje.</i>

2098
01:03:47,824 --> 01:03:49,534
<i>To so zakramenti</i>

2099
01:03:47,824 --> 01:03:49,534
<i>in zdravila</i>

2100
01:03:49,577 --> 01:03:51,452
<i>to bi bilo treba zdraviti</i>

2101
01:03:49,577 --> 01:03:51,452
<i>s spoštovanjem</i>

2102
01:03:51,494 --> 01:03:52,913
<i>in previdnost.</i>

2103
01:03:58,376 --> 01:04:02,047
<i>Upoštevajte, da gre</i>

2104
01:03:58,376 --> 01:04:02,047
<i>v svojo osebno cerkev.</i>

2105
01:04:02,088 --> 01:04:05,259
<i>Sedel boš</i>

2106
01:04:02,088 --> 01:04:05,259
<i>v strahu pred vesoljem.</i>

2107
01:04:39,041 --> 01:04:40,585
[Šef] <i> Imamo novo študijo,</i>

2108
01:04:39,041 --> 01:04:40,585
<i>kar je nekako izjemno.</i>

2109
01:04:40,628 --> 01:04:42,503
<i>To je delo z</i>

2110
01:04:40,628 --> 01:04:42,503
<i>verski voditelji.</i>

2111
01:04:42,545 --> 01:04:45,465
To so posvečeni duhovniki

2112
01:04:42,545 --> 01:04:45,465
ki imajo veliko tradicij.

2113
01:04:45,507 --> 01:04:49,219
krščanstvo, budizem,

2114
01:04:45,507 --> 01:04:49,219
judovstvo, hinduizem.

2115
01:04:49,260 --> 01:04:51,806
<i>Od teh izkušenj</i>

2116
01:04:49,260 --> 01:04:51,806
<i>so v jedru</i>

2117
01:04:51,847 --> 01:04:53,431
<i>glavnih religij,</i>

2118
01:04:53,474 --> 01:04:56,059
<i>zakaj ne bi prinesel</i>

2119
01:04:53,474 --> 01:04:56,059
<i>verski voditelji</i>

2120
01:04:56,101 --> 01:04:59,019
ki so preživeli svojo kariero

2121
01:04:56,101 --> 01:04:59,019
preučevanje te pokrajine

2122
01:04:59,061 --> 01:05:01,440
<i>imeti izkušnje?</i>

2123
01:05:16,704 --> 01:05:18,873
-[vibriranje telefona]

2124
01:05:16,704 --> 01:05:18,873
-[Stamets]<i>Ste slišali to?</i>

2125
01:05:18,914 --> 01:05:21,001
-Nisi?

2126
01:05:18,914 --> 01:05:21,001
-[človek] Vibrira?

2127
01:05:21,041 --> 01:05:22,878
Vibrira.

2128
01:05:21,041 --> 01:05:22,878
Prihajal je telefonski klic.

2129
01:05:22,918 --> 01:05:24,128
Tukaj gre.

2130
01:05:25,422 --> 01:05:27,423
Sporočilo od mame.

2131
01:05:27,465 --> 01:05:29,217
Dohodno sporočilo

2132
01:05:27,465 --> 01:05:29,217
od matere.

2133
01:05:29,259 --> 01:05:31,427
[P. Stamets] <i> Mislim, da sem imel</i>

2134
01:05:29,259 --> 01:05:31,427
<i>najboljša od vseh mater.</i>

2135
01:05:31,469 --> 01:05:33,681
<i>Moja mama je bila izjemno prijazna.</i>

2136
01:05:37,434 --> 01:05:41,563
[navijanje in aplavz]

2137
01:05:41,605 --> 01:05:45,567
Torej še ena goba

2138
01:05:41,605 --> 01:05:45,567
krepi imunski sistem

2139
01:05:45,608 --> 01:05:47,193
in to so puranji repi.

2140
01:05:47,235 --> 01:05:49,153
<i>in puranje gobe</i>

2141
01:05:47,235 --> 01:05:49,153
<i>so bili tudi uporabljeni</i>

2142
01:05:49,195 --> 01:05:51,155
<i>več kot tisoč let.</i>

2143
01:05:51,197 --> 01:05:55,994
To me je zelo prizadelo

2144
01:05:51,197 --> 01:05:55,994
osebno, junija 2009

2145
01:05:56,036 --> 01:05:58,454
ko je moja 84-letna mama

2146
01:05:56,036 --> 01:05:58,454
poklical me je

2147
01:05:58,496 --> 01:06:00,206
<i>in rekel: "Paul,</i>

2148
01:06:00,248 --> 01:06:02,250
<i>Imam nekaj zelo resnega</i>

2149
01:06:00,248 --> 01:06:02,250
<i>za pogovor s tabo."</i>

2150
01:06:02,291 --> 01:06:05,920
Rekla je: "Moja desna dojka je

2151
01:06:02,291 --> 01:06:05,920
petkrat večji od moje leve.

2152
01:06:05,961 --> 01:06:09,632
Imam šest oteklih bezgavk

2153
01:06:05,961 --> 01:06:09,632
velikosti oreha,«

2154
01:06:09,675 --> 01:06:11,300
in njen glas se je začel tresti

2155
01:06:11,342 --> 01:06:13,010
in ni me sram priznati

2156
01:06:11,342 --> 01:06:13,010
da sem začela jokati.

2157
01:06:13,052 --> 01:06:16,222
<i>Imela je četrto stopnjo</i>

2158
01:06:13,052 --> 01:06:16,222
<i>rak dojke.</i>

2159
01:06:16,264 --> 01:06:17,724
Potem pa je zdravnik rekel,

2160
01:06:16,264 --> 01:06:17,724
"Veš,

2161
01:06:17,766 --> 01:06:19,559
prestar si za

2162
01:06:17,766 --> 01:06:19,559
imeti radioterapijo.

2163
01:06:19,601 --> 01:06:21,686
Ne moreš imeti svojega

2164
01:06:19,601 --> 01:06:21,686
dojke odstraniti.

2165
01:06:21,728 --> 01:06:24,271
Obstaja pa zanimiva študija

2166
01:06:21,728 --> 01:06:24,271
na puranje gobe

2167
01:06:24,313 --> 01:06:25,565
na medicinski šoli Bastyr.

2168
01:06:25,606 --> 01:06:28,193
Morda boste želeli

2169
01:06:25,606 --> 01:06:28,193
da jih poskusim vzeti."

2170
01:06:28,235 --> 01:06:29,443
In to je-- moja mama gre,

2171
01:06:29,485 --> 01:06:31,278
"No, mojega sina

2172
01:06:29,485 --> 01:06:31,278
ki jih dobavlja."

2173
01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:35,324
Zato so jo dali na Taxol

2174
01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:35,324
in Herceptin, čudoviti zdravili.

2175
01:06:35,367 --> 01:06:36,617
In potem je začela jemati

2176
01:06:36,659 --> 01:06:38,327
osem puranov rep

2177
01:06:36,659 --> 01:06:38,327
kapsul na dan.

2178
01:06:38,369 --> 01:06:41,121
Štiri zjutraj

2179
01:06:38,369 --> 01:06:41,121
in štirih zvečer,

2180
01:06:41,164 --> 01:06:44,668
in to je bilo junija 2009.

2181
01:06:44,710 --> 01:06:49,547
In danes, moja mama

2182
01:06:44,710 --> 01:06:49,547
nima zaznavnih tumorjev.

2183
01:06:49,590 --> 01:06:51,967
In rad bi

2184
01:06:49,590 --> 01:06:51,967
vzgajati mamo.

2185
01:07:05,396 --> 01:07:08,148
Moraš preživeti

2186
01:07:05,396 --> 01:07:08,148
verjeti je.

2187
01:07:08,190 --> 01:07:11,612
Hej, mimogrede, hvala

2188
01:07:08,190 --> 01:07:11,612
ker me je rodila.

2189
01:07:11,652 --> 01:07:12,905
To zelo cenim.

2190
01:07:12,947 --> 01:07:15,322
Oh, nisi

2191
01:07:12,947 --> 01:07:15,322
ste se mi pred kratkim zahvalili?

2192
01:07:18,911 --> 01:07:21,329
[P. Stamets]<i> Bilo je</i>

2193
01:07:18,911 --> 01:07:21,329
<i>v literaturi poroča, da</i>

2194
01:07:21,371 --> 01:07:23,331
<i>medicinske gobe</i>

2195
01:07:21,371 --> 01:07:23,331
<i>kot puranji rep</i>

2196
01:07:23,373 --> 01:07:25,583
<i>kemoterapevtska pomoč</i>

2197
01:07:23,373 --> 01:07:25,583
<i>agenti delujejo bolje.</i>

2198
01:07:25,626 --> 01:07:27,920
<i>In mislim, da je</i>

2199
01:07:25,626 --> 01:07:27,920
<i>živ primer tega.</i>

2200
01:07:36,427 --> 01:07:39,014
Z mano se lahko prepira

2201
01:07:36,427 --> 01:07:39,014
o statistiki,

2202
01:07:39,054 --> 01:07:40,556
ampak moja mama je živa,

2203
01:07:40,599 --> 01:07:42,851
in vsi zdravniki

2204
01:07:40,599 --> 01:07:42,851
ki jo je videl

2205
01:07:42,893 --> 01:07:45,646
ni verjel

2206
01:07:42,893 --> 01:07:45,646
da bo preživela.

2207
01:08:00,117 --> 01:08:02,369
[man]<i> V veliko čast mi je...</i>

2208
01:08:02,411 --> 01:08:04,748
da predstavim Paula Stametsa.

2209
01:08:04,789 --> 01:08:08,208
[navijanje in aplavz]

2210
01:08:11,420 --> 01:08:13,673
prinesel sem

2211
01:08:11,420 --> 01:08:13,673
moj glivični prijatelj

2212
01:08:13,715 --> 01:08:15,342
iz starega gozda

2213
01:08:15,382 --> 01:08:19,429
in vam predstavljam...

2214
01:08:15,382 --> 01:08:19,429
Agarikon.

2215
01:08:19,470 --> 01:08:22,349
[navijanje in aplavz]

2216
01:08:25,435 --> 01:08:27,813
Agarikon je bil opisan

2217
01:08:25,435 --> 01:08:27,813
leta 65 po Kr.

2218
01:08:27,854 --> 01:08:30,314
kot<i>eliksirij ad longam vitam.</i>

2219
01:08:30,356 --> 01:08:32,067
"Eliksir dolgega življenja."

2220
01:08:34,444 --> 01:08:36,112
Torej te želim vzeti

2221
01:08:36,154 --> 01:08:38,573
na čarobni gobi

2222
01:08:36,154 --> 01:08:38,573
skrivnostno potovanje.

2223
01:08:40,449 --> 01:08:43,787
in bom pritiskal

2224
01:08:40,449 --> 01:08:43,787
kuverta tukaj, ljudje.

2225
01:08:43,828 --> 01:08:47,666
Mikrodiverziteta

2226
01:08:43,828 --> 01:08:47,666
je biotska raznovrstnost.

2227
01:08:47,707 --> 01:08:51,670
Razgradili se boste.

2228
01:08:47,707 --> 01:08:51,670
Razgrajal se bom.

2229
01:08:51,712 --> 01:08:53,005
Vsi bomo umrli.

2230
01:08:54,421 --> 01:08:55,923
to je v redu,

2231
01:08:55,966 --> 01:08:59,260
ker bomo vstopili

2232
01:08:55,966 --> 01:08:59,260
v mikroverz.

2233
01:09:01,055 --> 01:09:03,472
Za vedno bova obstajala skupaj

2234
01:09:03,515 --> 01:09:06,266
znotraj

2235
01:09:03,515 --> 01:09:06,266
mikromolekularna matrika.

2236
01:09:06,309 --> 01:09:08,269
[Lincoff] <i> Ko govori</i>

2237
01:09:06,309 --> 01:09:08,269
<i>kot počne,</i>

2238
01:09:08,310 --> 01:09:09,395
<i>on je...</i>

2239
01:09:09,436 --> 01:09:12,649
kanaliziranje micelija.

2240
01:09:12,690 --> 01:09:15,860
<i>In to je čudovita stvar.</i>

2241
01:09:15,903 --> 01:09:17,319
možganski nevroni,

2242
01:09:17,362 --> 01:09:18,320
micelij,

2243
01:09:18,363 --> 01:09:20,573
računalniški internet,

2244
01:09:20,614 --> 01:09:24,744
organizacija vesolja

2245
01:09:20,614 --> 01:09:24,744
vsi delijo isti arhetip.

2246
01:09:24,786 --> 01:09:28,082
Verjamem v materijo

2247
01:09:24,786 --> 01:09:28,082
rodi življenje.

2248
01:09:28,122 --> 01:09:29,957
Življenje postanejo posamezne celice.

2249
01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:31,918
Posamezne celice tvorijo verige.

2250
01:09:31,960 --> 01:09:34,046
Verige tvorijo veje.

2251
01:09:34,087 --> 01:09:40,761
Matrice se prepletajo,

2252
01:09:34,087 --> 01:09:40,761
križajoči se mozaiki micelija

2253
01:09:40,801 --> 01:09:44,430
in podoben miceliju

2254
01:09:40,801 --> 01:09:44,430
organizmi oseke in oseke

2255
01:09:44,471 --> 01:09:45,974
ne samo na tem planetu,

2256
01:09:46,015 --> 01:09:48,475
na drugih planetih

2257
01:09:46,015 --> 01:09:48,475
v prihodnost.

2258
01:09:48,518 --> 01:09:50,185
hvala lepa

2259
01:09:56,984 --> 01:09:59,029
Paul je bil čudovit

2260
01:09:56,984 --> 01:09:59,029
pri posredovanju informacij

2261
01:09:59,070 --> 01:10:01,073
o vseh teh

2262
01:09:59,070 --> 01:10:01,073
vidiki gob

2263
01:10:01,114 --> 01:10:04,324
<i>in potem je navdihnilo</i>

2264
01:10:01,114 --> 01:10:04,324
<i>vsi ti mladi ljudje.</i>

2265
01:10:04,367 --> 01:10:06,119
<i>Zdaj imamo ljudi</i>

2266
01:10:04,367 --> 01:10:06,119
<i>kot Tradd Cotter</i>

2267
01:10:06,161 --> 01:10:08,203
<i>nadaljevanje odličnega dela</i>

2268
01:10:06,161 --> 01:10:08,203
<i>da je Paul začel,</i>

2269
01:10:08,246 --> 01:10:10,247
<i>ko govorimo o biopesticidih,</i>

2270
01:10:10,289 --> 01:10:12,960
<i>govorimo o načinih</i>

2271
01:10:10,289 --> 01:10:12,960
<i>lahko bi razstrupili olje.</i>

2272
01:10:13,001 --> 01:10:15,502
Vse te neverjetne

2273
01:10:13,001 --> 01:10:15,502
stvari so se začele

2274
01:10:15,545 --> 01:10:16,796
ker ljudje, kot je Paul

2275
01:10:16,837 --> 01:10:18,756
prinesel to

2276
01:10:16,837 --> 01:10:18,756
kulturo nasploh

2277
01:10:18,798 --> 01:10:20,382
<i>in mladi zdaj</i>

2278
01:10:18,798 --> 01:10:20,382
<i>prevzeli vzrok</i>

2279
01:10:20,425 --> 01:10:22,927
<i>in se resnično širijo</i>

2280
01:10:20,425 --> 01:10:22,927
<i>naši vpogledi</i>

2281
01:10:22,970 --> 01:10:25,512
<i>v kaj sveta</i>

2282
01:10:22,970 --> 01:10:25,512
<i>gob nam lahko pomaga.</i>

2283
01:10:25,555 --> 01:10:27,015
Živijo, ime mi je Peter

2284
01:10:27,056 --> 01:10:28,809
in jaz sem z radikalom

2285
01:10:27,056 --> 01:10:28,809
mikološki projekt.

2286
01:10:28,850 --> 01:10:30,060
Pred kratkim sem treniral gobo

2287
01:10:30,101 --> 01:10:31,979
prebavljati uporabljeno

2288
01:10:30,101 --> 01:10:31,979
cigaretni filtri.

2289
01:10:32,020 --> 01:10:33,729
[Peter McCoy]<i> Paula Stametsa</i>

2290
01:10:32,020 --> 01:10:33,729
<i>knjiga,</i> Mycelium Running

2291
01:10:33,771 --> 01:10:35,649
<i>nekako mi je šlo v glavo.</i>

2292
01:10:35,689 --> 01:10:37,317
To je bilo, ko sem

2293
01:10:35,689 --> 01:10:37,317
prvi odkril, da

2294
01:10:37,358 --> 01:10:41,279
je bilo veliko več

2295
01:10:37,358 --> 01:10:41,279
gobe kot samo hrana.

2296
01:10:42,363 --> 01:10:43,739
[Brown] <i> Če bi me videl</i>

2297
01:10:43,782 --> 01:10:45,033
<i>ko sem izpadel</i>

2298
01:10:43,782 --> 01:10:45,033
<i>srednje šole,</i>

2299
01:10:45,074 --> 01:10:46,576
<i>Ustvarjal sem samo rap glasbo.</i>

2300
01:10:46,618 --> 01:10:48,368
<i>Vedel sem zelo malo</i>

2301
01:10:46,618 --> 01:10:48,368
<i>o naravnem svetu.</i>

2302
01:10:48,411 --> 01:10:50,997
<i>Nikoli še nisem šel</i>

2303
01:10:48,411 --> 01:10:50,997
<i>na pohod do 18. leta,</i>

2304
01:10:51,038 --> 01:10:52,832
ampak iskanje Paula Stametsa

2305
01:10:51,038 --> 01:10:52,832
TED pogovorni video

2306
01:10:52,873 --> 01:10:55,168
<i>je bil eden največjih</i>

2307
01:10:52,873 --> 01:10:55,168
<i>navdihi, ki so me gnali</i>

2308
01:10:55,210 --> 01:10:57,837
<i>v čudoviti svet</i>

2309
01:10:55,210 --> 01:10:57,837
<i>mikologije.</i>

2310
01:10:57,878 --> 01:10:59,338
Moja prva gobarska knjiga

2311
01:10:59,380 --> 01:11:01,341
je bil<i> Kultivator gob</i>

2312
01:10:59,380 --> 01:11:01,341
avtorja Paul Stamets.

2313
01:11:01,381 --> 01:11:04,177
[Furci] <i> Večno bom</i>

2314
01:11:01,381 --> 01:11:04,177
<i>hvaležen mu</i>

2315
01:11:04,219 --> 01:11:07,346
ker si mi pokazal, da je v redu

2316
01:11:04,219 --> 01:11:07,346
biti nor na gobe.

2317
01:11:07,387 --> 01:11:11,225
[Lori Cariss]<i> Res ne</i>

2318
01:11:07,387 --> 01:11:11,225
<i>poznajo celo večino gliv.</i>

2319
01:11:11,266 --> 01:11:14,188
Odkrivamo nove vrste

2320
01:11:11,266 --> 01:11:14,188
na dnevni osnovi

2321
01:11:14,229 --> 01:11:16,523
in ni ti treba iti

2322
01:11:14,229 --> 01:11:16,523
na eksotične kraje

2323
01:11:16,564 --> 01:11:17,649
da jih odkrijemo.

2324
01:11:18,984 --> 01:11:20,527
[McCoy] <i> Vsak lahko</i>

2325
01:11:18,984 --> 01:11:20,527
<i>dodaj k znanosti,</i>

2326
01:11:20,568 --> 01:11:22,029
<i>od prepoznavanja nove vrste</i>

2327
01:11:22,069 --> 01:11:24,113
za razvoj novega

2328
01:11:22,069 --> 01:11:24,113
mikroposredniški protokol.

2329
01:11:24,155 --> 01:11:27,908
[Cariss]<i> Obstaja velika potreba</i>

2330
01:11:24,155 --> 01:11:27,908
<i>da bi več ljudi preučevalo glive</i>

2331
01:11:27,951 --> 01:11:30,703
<i>in veliko jih je</i>

2332
01:11:27,951 --> 01:11:30,703
<i>priložnosti.</i>

2333
01:11:30,744 --> 01:11:32,831
[Pollan]<i>Neverjetno kaj</i>

2334
01:11:30,744 --> 01:11:32,831
<i>ne poznamo gob.</i>

2335
01:11:32,872 --> 01:11:35,042
<i>Resnično so meja</i>

2336
01:11:32,872 --> 01:11:35,042
<i>znanja.</i>

2337
01:11:35,082 --> 01:11:38,837
<i>Verjetno nam lahko pomagajo</i>

2338
01:11:35,082 --> 01:11:38,837
<i>rešiti vse vrste težav</i>

2339
01:11:38,878 --> 01:11:41,047
<i>če pogledamo malo globlje.</i>

2340
01:11:41,088 --> 01:11:43,423
[Cotter] <i> Vsak, vsak lahko pomaga</i>

2341
01:11:43,466 --> 01:11:44,801
<i>s hojo in hojo</i>

2342
01:11:43,466 --> 01:11:44,801
<i>v gozdu</i>

2343
01:11:44,842 --> 01:11:46,720
<i>in prispevanje</i>

2344
01:11:44,842 --> 01:11:46,720
<i>mikologiji.</i>

2345
01:11:46,761 --> 01:11:49,430
<i>Morda ste našli vrsto</i>

2346
01:11:46,761 --> 01:11:49,430
<i>ki še ni bil najden.</i>

2347
01:11:51,099 --> 01:11:52,684
<i>Potrebujemo te gobe.</i>

2348
01:11:52,725 --> 01:11:56,604
<i>Sodelujemo kot skupnost</i>

2349
01:11:52,725 --> 01:11:56,604
<i>za reševanje težav.</i>

2350
01:11:56,645 --> 01:12:01,484
Lahko bi bili skupnost

2351
01:11:56,645 --> 01:12:01,484
ki zdravi planet.

2352
01:12:01,525 --> 01:12:04,319
[P. Stamets]<i> Ocenjeno je bilo</i>

2353
01:12:01,525 --> 01:12:04,319
<i>dve tretjini naše zaloge hrane</i>

2354
01:12:04,362 --> 01:12:06,655
<i>je odvisen od opraševanja čebel.</i>

2355
01:12:06,698 --> 01:12:09,367
<i>Na žalost izgubljamo</i>

2356
01:12:06,698 --> 01:12:09,367
<i>čebele po vsem svetu</i>

2357
01:12:09,408 --> 01:12:11,493
<i>v dramatičnem odmiranju</i>

2358
01:12:09,408 --> 01:12:11,493
<i>to je zelo nevarno</i>

2359
01:12:11,536 --> 01:12:14,788
<i>za biološko varnost</i>

2360
01:12:11,536 --> 01:12:14,788
<i>tega planeta.</i>

2361
01:12:14,831 --> 01:12:17,000
<i>Zato sem začel raziskovati načine</i>

2362
01:12:14,831 --> 01:12:17,000
<i>za pomoč pri reševanju čebel</i>

2363
01:12:17,042 --> 01:12:18,585
<i>in opazil sem</i>

2364
01:12:17,042 --> 01:12:18,585
<i>v poletnem času</i>

2365
01:12:18,626 --> 01:12:20,336
<i>obstaja neprekinjeno</i>

2366
01:12:18,626 --> 01:12:20,336
<i>konvoj čebel</i>

2367
01:12:20,377 --> 01:12:22,963
<i>odhajam iz mojih panjev</i>

2368
01:12:20,377 --> 01:12:22,963
<i>v moj micelij.</i>

2369
01:12:23,006 --> 01:12:24,841
<i>Toda potem se mi je posvetilo,</i>

2370
01:12:24,882 --> 01:12:27,426
mogoče čebelam koristi

2371
01:12:24,882 --> 01:12:27,426
iz izvlečkov micelija

2372
01:12:27,467 --> 01:12:29,054
ker imajo

2373
01:12:27,467 --> 01:12:29,054
protivirusne lastnosti.

2374
01:12:29,095 --> 01:12:32,347
<i>In tako sem bil najbolj kultiviran</i>

2375
01:12:29,095 --> 01:12:32,347
<i>agresivni sevi</i>

2376
01:12:32,390 --> 01:12:34,016
<i>in jih nato oddali.</i>

2377
01:12:34,059 --> 01:12:36,394
<i>Začeli smo preizkušati</i>

2378
01:12:34,059 --> 01:12:36,394
<i>učinki teh izvlečkov</i>

2379
01:12:36,435 --> 01:12:39,189
<i>pri pomoči čebelam pri preživetju.</i>

2380
01:12:39,230 --> 01:12:41,356
[Nicholas Naeger]<i>Nekaj od teh</i>

2381
01:12:39,230 --> 01:12:41,356
<i>izvlečki gliv so res dobri</i>

2382
01:12:41,399 --> 01:12:44,359
<i>pri zmanjševanju virusnih</i>

2383
01:12:41,399 --> 01:12:44,359
<i>ravni v čebeli.</i>

2384
01:12:44,402 --> 01:12:45,819
Torej, tukaj imamo glivico

2385
01:12:45,862 --> 01:12:49,115
ki pomaga pri boju

2386
01:12:45,862 --> 01:12:49,115
virusi v insektu.

2387
01:12:49,157 --> 01:12:50,658
[man]<i> Uporabljamo</i>

2388
01:12:49,157 --> 01:12:50,658
<i>gobe za ustvarjanje</i>

2389
01:12:50,699 --> 01:12:52,743
<i>popolnoma nov razred</i>

2390
01:12:50,699 --> 01:12:52,743
<i>materialov</i>

2391
01:12:52,786 --> 01:12:55,747
ki so popolnoma kompostne

2392
01:12:52,786 --> 01:12:55,747
na koncu svojega življenja.

2393
01:12:56,914 --> 01:12:58,498
[ženska]

2394
01:12:56,914 --> 01:12:58,498
<i>Raziskovalci so to ugotovili</i>

2395
01:12:58,541 --> 01:13:00,627
<i>ko so segreli</i>

2396
01:12:58,541 --> 01:13:00,627
<i>koža gobe Portobello</i>

2397
01:13:00,667 --> 01:13:02,296
<i>na približno 2000</i>

2398
01:13:00,667 --> 01:13:02,296
<i>stopinj Fahrenheita,</i>

2399
01:13:02,337 --> 01:13:04,546
<i>postala je mreža</i>

2400
01:13:02,337 --> 01:13:04,546
<i>ogljikovega nano traku</i>

2401
01:13:04,588 --> 01:13:06,341
<i>ki bi ga lahko uporabili</i>

2402
01:13:04,588 --> 01:13:06,341
<i>pri oblikovanju baterije</i>

2403
01:13:06,381 --> 01:13:08,051
ker omogoča dobro

2404
01:13:06,381 --> 01:13:08,051
količino površine

2405
01:13:08,092 --> 01:13:09,344
za shranjevanje energije.

2406
01:13:09,385 --> 01:13:12,012
[Cotter]

2407
01:13:09,385 --> 01:13:12,012
<i>Vodo lahko filtrirate.</i>

2408
01:13:12,055 --> 01:13:15,141
<i>Lahko ustvarite zdravilo</i>

2409
01:13:12,055 --> 01:13:15,141
<i>kompoziti skoraj na zahtevo.</i>

2410
01:13:15,182 --> 01:13:16,850
<i>Delali smo na Haitiju,</i>

2411
01:13:16,893 --> 01:13:18,353
<i>in te pogledajo</i>

2412
01:13:16,893 --> 01:13:18,353
<i>kot da imam super moči.</i>

2413
01:13:18,394 --> 01:13:20,520
No, povem jim, rekel sem,

2414
01:13:20,563 --> 01:13:22,649
»Kar boste

2415
01:13:20,563 --> 01:13:22,649
imajo tudi supermoči."

2416
01:13:22,689 --> 01:13:26,402
[Rjava]<i> Prihaja iz</i>

2417
01:13:22,689 --> 01:13:26,402
<i>ozadje ne</i>

2418
01:13:22,689 --> 01:13:26,402
<i>s kakršnim koli usposabljanjem,</i>

2419
01:13:26,444 --> 01:13:28,904
<i>spravim se v</i>

2420
01:13:26,444 --> 01:13:28,904
<i>laboratorij je bil zelo močan.</i>

2421
01:13:28,947 --> 01:13:30,864
Počutil sem se kot superjunak.

2422
01:13:28,947 --> 01:13:30,864
Zdelo se mi je, da zmorem vse.

2423
01:13:32,367 --> 01:13:34,493
Uradno si

2424
01:13:32,367 --> 01:13:34,493
gobar.

2425
01:13:35,578 --> 01:13:37,288
Sporuliranje.

2426
01:13:35,578 --> 01:13:37,288
sporgazem.

2427
01:13:37,331 --> 01:13:40,875
[Lincoff] <i> Vidim svojo vrsto</i>

2428
01:13:37,331 --> 01:13:40,875
<i>kot del večje celote.</i>

2429
01:13:40,917 --> 01:13:43,461
<i>Namesto da bi bil pri</i>

2430
01:13:40,917 --> 01:13:43,461
<i>vrh piramide,</i>

2431
01:13:43,502 --> 01:13:47,590
biti eden od organizmov

2432
01:13:43,502 --> 01:13:47,590
z notranjostjo kroga.

2433
01:13:47,631 --> 01:13:51,051
in krog je

2434
01:13:47,631 --> 01:13:51,051
sestavljen iz micelija,

2435
01:13:51,094 --> 01:13:52,845
<i>ki nas vse drži skupaj.</i>

2436
01:14:00,686 --> 01:14:03,689
[Simard]<i>Vedno smo mislili</i>

2437
01:14:00,686 --> 01:14:03,689
<i>rastline kot ti inertni predmeti,</i>

2438
01:14:03,730 --> 01:14:08,569
<i>te stvari, ki ne</i>

2439
01:14:03,730 --> 01:14:08,569
<i>dejansko komunicirati z</i>

2440
01:14:03,730 --> 01:14:08,569
<i>drug drugega in gradimo stvari,</i>

2441
01:14:08,610 --> 01:14:11,113
<i>in kaj je moje delo</i>

2442
01:14:08,610 --> 01:14:11,113
<i>se prikazuje in drugo</i>

2443
01:14:08,610 --> 01:14:11,113
<i>tudi delo ljudi,</i>

2444
01:14:11,155 --> 01:14:14,993
<i>pravzaprav pravi,</i>

2445
01:14:11,155 --> 01:14:14,993
<i>potrebujejo drug drugega.</i>

2446
01:14:15,034 --> 01:14:17,619
Potrebujejo drug drugega

2447
01:14:15,034 --> 01:14:17,619
rasti v skupnosti

2448
01:14:17,662 --> 01:14:19,956
da lahko začnejo

2449
01:14:17,662 --> 01:14:19,956
delitev bremena.

2450
01:14:19,997 --> 01:14:22,250
<i>Ti naredi to, jaz bom naredil to,</i>

2451
01:14:19,997 --> 01:14:22,250
<i>in skupaj,</i>

2452
01:14:22,292 --> 01:14:24,961
<i>lahko naredimo lepo</i>

2453
01:14:22,292 --> 01:14:24,961
<i>odporna skupnost.</i>

2454
01:14:27,421 --> 01:14:29,090
<i>Imajo neverjetno zmogljivost</i>

2455
01:14:29,131 --> 01:14:31,926
<i>da se stvari spremenijo</i>

2456
01:14:29,131 --> 01:14:31,926
<i>zelo, zelo hitro.</i>

2457
01:14:31,967 --> 01:14:33,845
<i>Torej, če lahko sodelujemo z njimi,</i>

2458
01:14:33,886 --> 01:14:36,014
če ga dobimo, veš?

2459
01:14:33,886 --> 01:14:36,014
Če ljudje to dobijo,

2460
01:14:36,055 --> 01:14:38,725
<i>to lahko spremenimo</i>

2461
01:14:36,055 --> 01:14:38,725
<i>stvar zelo hitro.</i>

2462
01:14:38,765 --> 01:14:40,435
Tako sem zelo poln upanja.

2463
01:14:40,475 --> 01:14:43,354
Preprosto se moramo zaposliti

2464
01:14:40,475 --> 01:14:43,354
in pomagati naravi, da naredi svoje.

2465
01:14:49,152 --> 01:14:50,569
Evolucija se nikoli ne ustavi.

2466
01:14:50,610 --> 01:14:52,279
Ni ene točke

2467
01:14:50,610 --> 01:14:52,279
da se zgodi

2468
01:14:52,322 --> 01:14:53,739
in potem to

2469
01:14:52,322 --> 01:14:53,739
se ne ponovi.

2470
01:14:53,780 --> 01:14:55,658
Nenehno se dogaja.

2471
01:15:01,081 --> 01:15:02,832
<i>Osnovni koncept evolucije</i>

2472
01:15:02,873 --> 01:15:04,376
<i>je to skozi</i>

2473
01:15:02,873 --> 01:15:04,376
<i>naravna selekcija,</i>

2474
01:15:04,417 --> 01:15:07,545
<i>najmočnejši</i>

2475
01:15:04,417 --> 01:15:07,545
<i>in najmočnejši preživijo.</i>

2476
01:15:07,587 --> 01:15:09,171
<i>Toda še več,</i>

2477
01:15:09,213 --> 01:15:12,216
<i>skupnosti bolje preživijo</i>

2478
01:15:09,213 --> 01:15:12,216
<i>kot posamezniki.</i>

2479
01:15:12,259 --> 01:15:14,635
<i>Skupnosti se zanašajo</i>

2480
01:15:12,259 --> 01:15:14,635
<i>ob sodelovanju,</i>

2481
01:15:14,676 --> 01:15:17,346
<i>in mislim, da je to</i>

2482
01:15:14,676 --> 01:15:17,346
<i>moč dobrote.</i>

2483
01:15:18,890 --> 01:15:20,266
<i>Evolucija temelji</i>

2484
01:15:20,307 --> 01:15:23,310
<i>o konceptu</i>

2485
01:15:20,307 --> 01:15:23,310
<i>v obojestransko korist,</i>

2486
01:15:23,353 --> 01:15:26,439
<i>in razširitev</i>

2487
01:15:23,353 --> 01:15:26,439
<i>velikodušnosti.</i>

2488
01:15:29,524 --> 01:15:32,404
[Simard]<i> Ko ga vidimo,</i>

2489
01:15:29,524 --> 01:15:32,404
<i>razumemo.</i>

2490
01:15:32,445 --> 01:15:34,654
<i>In ko to razumemo,</i>

2491
01:15:32,445 --> 01:15:34,654
<i>skrbi nas za to.</i>

2492
01:15:34,697 --> 01:15:36,115
<i>In ko nam je mar za to,</i>

2493
01:15:36,157 --> 01:15:38,868
<i>nekaj bomo naredili</i>

2494
01:15:36,157 --> 01:15:38,868
<i>da ga pomagam rešiti.</i>

2495
01:15:38,909 --> 01:15:41,746
Potrebujemo spremembo paradigme

2496
01:15:38,909 --> 01:15:41,746
v naši zavesti.

2497
01:15:41,787 --> 01:15:43,372
Kaj bo potrebno

2498
01:15:41,787 --> 01:15:43,372
to doseči?

2499
01:15:47,377 --> 01:15:49,712
<i>Nismo posamezniki.</i>

2500
01:15:49,753 --> 01:15:51,588
<i>Smo obsežno omrežje</i>

2501
01:15:51,631 --> 01:15:55,342
<i>molekul in</i>

2502
01:15:51,631 --> 01:15:55,342
<i>energije in valovne dolžine.</i>

2503
01:15:55,385 --> 01:15:59,389
<i>Medsebojna povezanost</i>

2504
01:15:55,385 --> 01:15:59,389
<i>biti je to, kar smo.</i>

2505
01:16:03,976 --> 01:16:07,229
[pripovedovalec]<i> Ta svet</i>

2506
01:16:03,976 --> 01:16:07,229
<i>naš se vedno spreminja,</i>

2507
01:16:07,271 --> 01:16:09,689
<i>ne na bolje</i>

2508
01:16:07,271 --> 01:16:09,689
<i>ali na slabše,</i>

2509
01:16:11,024 --> 01:16:13,069
<i>ampak za življenje.</i>

2510
01:16:13,110 --> 01:16:16,780
<i>Če pridejo nevihte</i>

2511
01:16:13,110 --> 01:16:16,780
<i>in voda naraste,</i>

2512
01:16:16,823 --> 01:16:19,742
<i>če ogenj požge zemljo,</i>

2513
01:16:19,783 --> 01:16:21,953
<i>ali se spusti tema,</i>

2514
01:16:21,994 --> 01:16:23,287
<i>tukaj bomo</i>

2515
01:16:24,497 --> 01:16:26,500
<i>delam,</i>

2516
01:16:26,541 --> 01:16:28,376
<i>kot vedno.</i>

2517
01:16:29,127 --> 01:16:31,253
<i>Razširitev omrežja.</i>

2518
01:16:31,296 --> 01:16:33,422
<i>Gradnja skupnosti.</i>

2519
01:16:33,465 --> 01:16:35,382
<i>Vzpostavljanje ravnotežja.</i>

2520
01:16:37,010 --> 01:16:39,220
<i>Ena povezava naenkrat.</i>

2521
01:16:42,055 --> 01:16:44,766
<i>Lahko traja milijon let,</i>

2522
01:16:44,809 --> 01:16:46,978
<i>ali sto milijonov,</i>

2523
01:16:47,020 --> 01:16:51,315
<i>ampak še vedno bomo tukaj.</i>

2524
01:17:58,882 --> 01:18:01,969
[računalnik]

2525
01:17:58,882 --> 01:18:01,969
<i>Poročnik Paul Stamets.</i>

2526
01:18:02,011 --> 01:18:05,847
Postal sem astralni mikolog

2527
01:18:02,011 --> 01:18:05,847
because of awe.

2528
01:18:05,890 --> 01:18:07,600
Strah pred čudežem življenja.

2529
01:18:07,641 --> 01:18:09,060
[TV voditelj] Kako ste se počutili?

2530
01:18:09,101 --> 01:18:11,186
videnje izmišljenega

2531
01:18:09,101 --> 01:18:11,186
lik v<i>Zvezdnih stezah</i>

2532
01:18:11,229 --> 01:18:13,189
ki je navdihnjena

2533
01:18:11,229 --> 01:18:13,189
s svojo znanostjo?

2534
01:18:13,230 --> 01:18:14,981
Zelo sem počaščen.

2535
01:18:15,024 --> 01:18:16,943
Ko sem gledal<i>Zvezdne steze</i>

2536
01:18:15,024 --> 01:18:16,943
Stara sem bila približno 12 let.

2537
01:18:16,984 --> 01:18:20,279
Spore po svoji naravi

2538
01:18:16,984 --> 01:18:20,279
potovanje skozi vesolje.

2539
01:18:20,320 --> 01:18:22,948
Ko vzklijejo,

2540
01:18:20,320 --> 01:18:22,948
nastane nekaj gob.

2541
01:18:22,989 --> 01:18:26,118
Nekatere čarobne gobe vam pomagajo

2542
01:18:22,989 --> 01:18:26,118
upogibati čas in prostor.

2543
01:18:26,159 --> 01:18:27,869
[smeh]

2544
01:18:27,912 --> 01:18:31,082
[TV voditelj] Torej, uh,

2545
01:18:27,912 --> 01:18:31,082
če bi te obiskal...

2546
01:18:31,123 --> 01:18:34,710
bi lahko imeli nekaj

2547
01:18:31,123 --> 01:18:34,710
teh čarobnih gob?

2548
01:18:34,752 --> 01:18:36,337
[P. Stamets]

2549
01:18:34,752 --> 01:18:36,337
Narava zagotavlja. Jaz ne.

2550
01:18:36,378 --> 01:18:38,713
[smeh]